Mystery badge with crest

[tcw25]

The badge show in the attached photo was among my late grandparents' things; I had assumed it was regimental and from a British Army uniform during one of the world wars, but an enquiry elsewhere on this forum seems to have ruled that out.  The coat of arms appears to be that of the Earls of Shrewsbury, who as far as I know my family is not connected to in any way, although my grandparents are from the Northwest of England and North Wales. 

Any thoughts on where a cloth badge like this might have appeared (a uniform of an employee of an Earl of Shrewsbury?) and of the possible age of this one?

[rosie99]

Other post on same topic with replies
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=886574

[Kiltpin]

It is the simplified arms of Talbot, the Earls of Shrewsbury. At some point in the past, one of their houses became a Catholic Boys School - it could be a blazer badge. 

Regards 

Chas

[tcw25]

That's very helpful, Chas.  I don't suppose you know the school's name?  I see there is a Sir John Talbot School today, but there is no reference to its history (possibly suggesting it's modern). 

[Kiltpin]

All I have is this, from the Wikipedia article - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Shrewsbury -

Shrewsbury Place or Shrewsbury House, Isleworth bought by kinsman Sir John Talbot, 1678, passed to the Protestant Duke of Shrewsbury (died 1718), and to the Roman Catholic George Talbot (died 1733), often known in his lifetime as Earl of Shrewsbury. His widow continued to live at Isleworth until her death in 1752, and it was as her chaplain that the first recorded priest ministered in Isleworth. The house was a catholic boys school by 1770 and demolished by 1810. 

Regards 

Chas

[Jebber]

I go with the school Blazer badge, the meaning being something done that cannot be undone.

My own school motto was the  same as the RAF. “Per Ardua Ad Astra” “Through Adversity to the stars.”

[Sc00p]

Check out the watermark somebody added to the panel image.
http://thegreatwar.whitchurch-shropshire.co.uk/whitchurch-grammar-school-memorial/

[KGarrad]

Whitchurch Grammar School was founded in 1548 by the Rev. Sir John Talbot and opened in 1550.

Presumably from the Coat-of-Arms of the Talbot family.
The hound is a charge in classical heraldry. In English heraldry, the commonly used variant is the talbot, also blazoned as sleuth-hound, e.g. in the arms of Wolseley of Staffordshire.

[Albufera32]

Sir John Talbot's School and Sixth form College, which appears to be the successor of the Whitchurch Grammar School still has a school motto of Prest d'accomplier. (According to Wikipedia anyway).

The current school replaced Sir John Talbot Technology College, which in turn seems to have replaced Whitchurch Grammar School.