Joseph Broad c1760 Ashton in Makerfield

[Wodgemac]

I'm looking for information on Joseph Broad who lived in Ashton in Makerfield in the late 18th century.

One of his children was Luke Broady  (my 4 x Great Grandfather) born in 1790 in the same town. (There was a Luke born in 1787, but he died in 1788).

I have found baptism records for 10 other children of a Joseph Broad between 1766 and 1798.

Mary 1766
Betty 1772
Joseph 1773
Sally 1775
William 1779
Hannah 1782
Wm 1784
John 1785
Peter 1789
Sarah 1798

There is a record of Joseph Broad marrying Ellen Heaton in Ashton in Makerfield in 1781.
So were the children born before them to a different Joseph or was he married before? I have seen a Joseph Broad married to an Ellen Baxter in 1755 in the same town, on other family trees.

I have burial records for lots of Broads in St.Thomas churchyard in Ashton in Makerfield too. But I'm just trying to find out if Ellen Heaton was the mother of Luke Broady.

Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.

Richard McGrorey

[CaroleW]

Is surname Broad or Broady as you refer to Luke as Broady.  Was that just a typo?

[Neale1961]

Hi Richard, These are the records I could find   ……

Baptisms of Children of Joseph Broad  at St Thomas, Ashton in Makerfield
•   Thomas - born 16 Mar 1760
•   Sarah  - born 23 Feb 1763, Burial: 20 May 1763
•   Mary - born 24 Jan 1766, Burial: 23 May 1766
•   Betty - born 15 May 1772
•   Joseph - born 26 Nov 1773
•   Sally - born 21 Feb 1775, Burial (Sarah): 7 Nov 1777
•   Willam (s/o Joseph) - Burial: 20 Nov 1776 ( baptism not found)
•   William  - born 21 Mar 1779, Burial: 6 Dec 1780


[BURIAL -  23 May 1780 - Mary Broad, wife of Joseph - St Thomas, Ashton in Makerfield]


Continued Baptisms of Children of Joseph Broad at St Thomas, Ashton in Makerfield
•   Hannah – born 21 Mar 1782
•   William - born 14 Feb 1784
•   John - born 18 Aug 1785
•   Luke - born 6 Oct 1787, Burial: 13 Aug 1788
•   Peter - born 16 Mar 1789, Burial: 23 Jan 1790
•   Luke - born 25 Jun 1790


[BURIAL -  20 Nov 1791  - Joseph Broad -  St Thomas, Ashton in Makerfield]


[BURIAL -  4 Dec 1796 – Ellen Broad - St Thomas, Ashton in Makerfield]



( I think this Sarah must belong to a different Joseph – perhaps the son named Joseph, born 1773)
•   Sarah born 28 May 1798, Burial: 24 May 1799



This is the marriage you refer to.
MARRIAGE 19 Jul 1781 St Oswald, Winwick
Joseph Broade - (X), of this Parish   to     Ellen Heaton - (X), of this Parish

It does seem a good possibility, as it fits between the burial of Joseph’s first wife, and the birth of Hannah in 1782.
Ashton in Makerfield was originally a chapelry of Winwick, with St Thomas, its chapel. Winwick is only 4 miles from Ashton in Makerfield
https://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Ashton-in-Makerfield/stthomas/index.html

[Neale1961]

This is possibly the 1st marriage for Joseph

Wigan, All Saints 10 Oct 1758
Joseph Broady of Ashton and Mary Pennington of Hindley were married in this church by licence this 10th day October 1758 by me, Thomad Edge
This marriage was solomnised between us (bride and groom both made X)
In the presence of Gord. Banks and Ncks. Thomason


Added -
The father Joseph Broad cannot have been born c. 1760 (as in your heading), as this is when his first child was born. His birth was probably more likely c. 1730-1735.
Unfortunately we do not have his age at death on his burial record.

[Wodgemac]

Is surname Broad or Broady as you refer to Luke as Broady.  Was that just a typo?

Joseph was Broad, but Luke was later known as Broady/Broadie

[Wodgemac]

Thank you Neale1961

I was deliberating whether it was two separate Joseph's but do you think it's the same Joseph, who married again and had children late on in life ?

Is there anything in the Joseph Broad being married to an Ellen Baxter in 1855 that I've seen in another family tree?

I have another two Ellen Broad's buried in St.Thomas's churchyard, as well as the one buried in 1796.
One in 1818 and another in September 1825

Do you think the one buried in 1796 was Ellen Heaton?

EDIT
I've just seen Ellen dying in 1818 was the daughter of William and Betty Broad

[Neale1961]

I think it is the same Joseph with 2 marriages. First wife Mary, 2nd wife Ellen.


The Ellen Broad burials in 1818 and 1825 were both infants. 1818 daughter of William. 1825 daughter of John

[Wodgemac]

Thank you
I was just about to edit my comment to say i have just seen the other Ellen's were infants.

[Neale1961]

Those 2 infant Ellens that died were obviously named after their grandmother.