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Robert Thoms Oram burial 1969
« on: Wednesday 16 October 24 17:17 BST (UK) »
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Sorry it's me again. I'm trying to locate the burial place of my grandfather Robert Thoms Oram b1884, St Clement's, Dundee, to James Oram & Mary Thoms.

Roberts first marriage was to Margaret Stottisood Black in 1915. She unfortunately died in 1920 aged 25

Robert then married my grandmother Charlotte Stewart Wallace b 1899 Lochee she died in 1951 in Dundee.

I do have the death certificate for Robert my grandfather. The death was registered by A. G  Adams, welfare Officer on 13th March 1969.

I don't have any burial details for my Grandparents, and would appreciate any help anyone maybe able to give, or where I can enquire about the burial

Dave
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Re: Robert Thoms Oram burial 1969
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 October 24 18:29 BST (UK) »
Burial records are mostly kept by the local authority, though records of closed/historic burial grounds may be with the council's Archives rather than the burial grounds office.

You didn't say whether or not Robert died in Dundee. Assuming that he did, the burial records should be with Dundee City Council Bereavement Services https://www.dundeecity.gov.uk/service-area/neighbourhood-services/environment/bereavement-services-a-guide-to-the-citys-cemeteries
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Re: Robert Thoms Oram burial 1969
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 October 24 19:27 BST (UK) »
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Yes, Sorry Robert did die in Dundee at the maryfield Hospital in Dundee. I will contact Dundee City.gov.uk and put a request in.

Thank you for that information

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Re: Robert Thoms Oram burial 1969
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 October 24 09:16 BST (UK) »
Your grandfather may have been cremated rather than buried.

Dundee Crematorium was opened in 1936 and is situated at McAlpine Road, Dundee.

Just an alternative to think about.

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Re: Robert Thoms Oram burial 1969
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 October 24 09:38 BST (UK) »
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Re: Robert Thoms Oram burial 1969
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 October 24 10:41 BST (UK) »
Your grandfather may have been cremated rather than buried.

Dundee Crematorium was opened in 1936 and is situated at McAlpine Road, Dundee.

Just an alternative to think about.

Dorrie

Thank you for that Dorrie. I will contact them to check

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Re: Robert Thoms Oram burial 1969
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 October 24 10:43 BST (UK) »
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Re: Robert Thoms Oram burial 1969
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 October 24 20:53 BST (UK) »
His mother was buried in Balgay Cemetery.

Courier 11-1-1951:

ORAM. - At 9 Balgay St., Lochee, on Jan. 10,
1951, Mary Thoms, widow of James Oram, in
her 86th year. Funeral to Balgay Cemetery
on Fri. at 2 p.m. No flowers.

Courier 24-5-1952:

ORAM. - In loving memory of out dear sister, and
dear mother, Charlotte Wallace, who died May
25, 1951. - Inserted by her brother, sister-in-law,
and Ella and Eric, 10 Clepington St.

People's Journal 25-9-1915

ORAM - BLACK. - At Dundee, on 24th inst., by
special license, Robert, only son of Mr and Mrs
James Oram, 9 Balgay Street, Lochee, to Maggie
Spottiswoode Black, youngest daughter of the late
Gardyne Black and Mrs Robertson, 48 Small's
Wynd, Dundee.

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Re: Robert Thoms Oram burial 1969
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 October 24 21:09 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much GR2, for that information on the 3 burials. It's much appreciated

ORAM - BLACK. - At Dundee, on 24th inst., by
special license?

I'm wondering now why would a special license be required for a burial 🤔

Edit
I've got it now the last one was the marriage of Robert and Margaret. 😊

Kind Regards
Dave Oram

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