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william lewis Rees born 1879 3rd quarter pengam wales
« on: Wednesday 16 October 24 04:10 BST (UK) »
Hello People.  I have applied for William Lewis Rees birth certificate, REES, WILLIAM  LEWIS mothers maiden name WALTERS  GRO Reference: 1879  S Quarter in BEDWELLTY  Volume 11A  Page 121

I can see that his is on 1881-1901 Census records with his parents (William and Naomi Rees - nee Walters) mainly in the area of Pengam, Bedwelty. 

In 1911 and 1921 it's possible he is with a Lillian Rees (1921 census) but I have yet to confirm this.  I've yet to search the Welsh Newspapers.  If anyone can shed some light on this, I would be grateful.
Regards Elaine

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Re: william lewis Rees born 1879 3rd quarter pengam wales
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 October 24 05:55 BST (UK) »
GRO search gives a son born 1910 mmn Davies.

If information on the census you mention is correct, then there should be a marriage c1908.
So far I cannot find a Lilly/Lillian Davies marriage to William Rees although she could have been married previously and given her birth surname on her son’s registration.

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Re: william lewis Rees born 1879 3rd quarter pengam wales
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 October 24 06:02 BST (UK) »
Agree with Glencare -  In 1921 they appear to have a number of sons born pre 1911 who were not living  with them in 1911.  Could these be from a previous marriage :-\

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Re: william lewis Rees born 1879 3rd quarter pengam wales
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 October 24 06:46 BST (UK) »
Can I ask please if you are following the family line back from one of William’s children? If so is it Gordon or another child or a different route entirely?
The reason I ask is I have found records of a Gordon Rees born 1910 with a different Davies mother that may have links to a William Lewis Rees.


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Re: william lewis Rees born 1879 3rd quarter pengam wales
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 October 24 07:30 BST (UK) »
An obituary for him says he had 3 sons and 3 step sons surname Collins, one being Gordon.

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Re: william lewis Rees born 1879 3rd quarter pengam wales
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 October 24 07:46 BST (UK) »
Well found - so this could be his stepson from 1911 census

 COLLINS, GORDON  STANLEY      MORGAN     
GRO Reference: 1909  D Quarter in OF CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 467

And possibly the parents marriage

Marriages Sep 1898 
Samuel Edgar Collins  - Lillian Rose Morgan      Pontypool    11a   170   

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Re: william lewis Rees born 1879 3rd quarter pengam wales
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 October 24 08:01 BST (UK) »
May William and Lilian have married after her first husband died??

Marriages Jun 1918 
Collins    Lilian    Rees    Cardiff    11a   775   
Rees    William    Collins    Cardiff    11a 775

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Re: william lewis Rees born 1879 3rd quarter pengam wales
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 October 24 09:34 BST (UK) »
Hello Glencare.  I have found a 1911 Census with William Lewis Rees - coal miner - hewer. From Pengam Monmouthshire.  Wife Lilly Rees from Newport.  Both aged 32.  son Gordon Rees (1yo).  The age of William fits and his place of birth.  Regards Elaine

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Re: william lewis Rees born 1879 3rd quarter pengam wales
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 16 October 24 11:25 BST (UK) »
Lillian Rose Morgan married Samuel Edgar Collins Sep 1998     Pontypool    11a   170.

They baptised 4 sons at Cardiff St Paul's Grangetown Cardiff 16 Dec 1909: Samuel Leonard. Leopold Albert, Percy Arthur and Gordon Stanley Collins.

11 Jan 1910 Western Mail reports that Lily Rose Collins of Clive street. Llanishen, applied for and got a separation and mainetnance order from her 1st husband who was living in Bertram Rd Hendon. Lily had returned home to her father's in Cardiff but husband had not sent any money to maintain them after losing hos job as a clerk in London. She also stated he had been violent towards her. He asked for and got custody of their eldest son who was probably Samuel Leonard Collins.

Presumably they must have divorced