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Taynuilt, Highland Light Infantry
« on: Sunday 13 October 24 17:13 BST (UK) »
Hello,
Could anyone tell me what regiment you'd have been in if you were in the Highland Light Infantry, based at Taynuilt during WW2
My late Father was based there around 1941 - 45
I also learnt recently he was in, Japanese POW camp
Any help would be most appreciated
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Re: Taynuilt, Highland Light Infantry
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 October 24 00:01 BST (UK) »
The HLI was a regiment in its own right.  Regimental HQ, during WW2 anyway, was Maryhill Barracks in Glasgow. Some regimental history here.

https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/highland-light-infantry-city-glasgow-regiment

The Regiment was posted all over the place and various units may have been attached to other units for various reasons. The Regimental Museum probably has a regimental diary with a history of where and when units were posted. They may be able to assist with your enquiry about serving in Taynuilt.
Elwyn

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Re: Taynuilt, Highland Light Infantry
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 October 24 08:51 BST (UK) »
The HLI had 10 battalions during WW2, although at least one of these (7th Bn) became an Anti-Aircraft Regiment. Only the 1st and 2nd battalion were regular soldiers, with rest being Territorial Army (TA). The majority of the TA Battalions were based in and around Glasgow, and as far as I can see none of these had TA centres in or close to Taynuilt (whose population is under 1000). Of the TA battalions I think that the 9th (Lanarkshire) battalion is the most likely one to have recruited outside of the greater Glasgow area.

It is quite possible that once the war had started, and Glasgow was being subjected to bombing raids, at least one of the battalions which remained in the UK was moved out to the area of Taynuilt in order to train in the more rugged terrain. It is also possible that the beaches of Airds Bay were used to train for opposed beach landings such as those in Operations Torch and Overlord.

If you know when and / or where your father became a prisoner of war, that would provide the best clue as to the battalion he was in. This could have happened in France or Belgium in early 1940; in North Africa (circa 1942/3), Italy 1943-4, or possibly in Normandy in the summer of 1944 following D Day when several of the HLI battalions were involved in Operations Martlet and Epsom. If you haven't already done so, you should search on his name in the National Archives and in FindmyPast's military collection if you have a subscription. As a prisoner of war, he will have been recorded in at least one Casualty report. This will provide his regimental number and location where he was captured. From there you can obtain his service record from either the MOD or the National Archives.

As Elwyn Soutter says, you should also contact the HLI Regimental Museum - don't be put off by the museum's current name, the HLI later amalgamated with the Royal Highland Fusiliers.
See also this history of the Regiment during WW2 on the HLI Association website



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Re: Taynuilt, Highland Light Infantry
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 October 24 10:35 BST (UK) »
Thankyou.. Elwyn & Andy, your responses are very helpful, I will certainly take your advice & investigate further.. Those links you have sent could be very useful
Much appreciated 👍


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Re: Taynuilt, Highland Light Infantry
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 October 24 11:06 BST (UK) »
If he was in a Japanese prisoner of war camp, it seems unlikely he was taken prisoner in France or the North Africa campaign.

The Royal Highland Fusiliers (as they are now) include North Arakan, Razabil, Pinwe, Shweli, Mandalay and Burma 1944 - 45 amongst their battle honours, all these having been awarded during the Burma campaign. I'm not sure if these were earned by the HLI or The Royal Scots Fusiliers, but I would still suggest investigating this as a possibility.
Howie (Riccarton Ayrshire)
McNeil/ McNeill (Argyll)
Main (Airdrie Lanarkshire)
Grant (Lanarkshire and Bo'ness)
More (Lanarkshire)
Ure (Polmont)
Colligan (Lanarkshire)
Drinnan (New Zealand)

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Re: Taynuilt, Highland Light Infantry
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 October 24 11:56 BST (UK) »
Albufera, you are correct. The HLI did not fight the Japanese.  There were three possible occasions / locations where British soldiers could have been captured by the Japanese: The Fall of Singapore in February 1942 (but there were no Scottish units in the order of battle for 18th Infantry Division), Hong Kong which surrendered in December 1941, (only Scots unit was the 2nd Battalion the Royal Scots) or the Burma Campaign 1942-45 where the Scots infantry were represented in the 18th Infantry Division by the 1st battalion the Royal Scots, and the 1st battalion the Queens Own Cameron Highlanders, and in the 36th Infantry Division by the 1st battalion the Royal Scots Fusiliers.

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Re: Taynuilt, Highland Light Infantry
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 October 24 16:27 BST (UK) »
What remained of 2nd battalion, 93rd Regiment (Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders) surrendered at Singapore after fighting virtually the full length of the Malayan Peninsula from early December 1941. Most of the battalion had been wiped out in the defence of Slim River from 4 - 7 January 1942.
Howie (Riccarton Ayrshire)
McNeil/ McNeill (Argyll)
Main (Airdrie Lanarkshire)
Grant (Lanarkshire and Bo'ness)
More (Lanarkshire)
Ure (Polmont)
Colligan (Lanarkshire)
Drinnan (New Zealand)

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Re: Taynuilt, Highland Light Infantry
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 15 October 24 00:41 BST (UK) »
Thankyou also Albufera32,
There's a lot to take in, never the less it's interesting reading.
I'm not sure when my father actually enlisted with HLI, it could have been when WW2 broke out or earlier... He was a Merchant Sea man up until around 1937/38

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Re: Taynuilt, Highland Light Infantry
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 15 October 24 00:47 BST (UK) »
Merchant Seaman; served in the HLI in Taynuilt, then POW in Japan. Unusual perhaps? How confident are you of all this?

You really ned to get his service records to clarify the facts.
Elwyn