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'Holland Batteries' around 1800-1805. Please can anyone help?
« on: Friday 11 October 24 15:51 BST (UK) »
Could anyone help please?  I’m trying to find the parents of my 3x g,grandfather James Richardson, who married in 1822 in Alton Staffordshire & who died in 1838.  I can’t find a likely baptism for him, though his death record gives his birth year at 1800.
His marriage record shows a ‘Pheby Richardson’ as a witness.  I have traced her (born 1805) and am assuming she was his sister.  The only clue I have to help in this is that she gives her birthplace in the 1861/71 & 1881 censuses as  ‘Holland Batteries at Sea’, ‘Born at Sea’ and ‘Holland Battery’.
Does anyone have any knowledge of Holland Battery, or know whether there are any records of servicemen in Holland in around 1800-1805?   Both James and Phoebe lived their adult lives in the same area of North Staffordshire, so I’d assume maybe a North Staffs Regiment?
Any help thoughts or ideas gratefully received – thanks! - Aitch
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Re: 'Holland Batteries' around 1800-1805. Please can anyone help?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 October 24 16:19 BST (UK) »
Historically the term "battery" referred to a cluster of cannon in action as a group, either in a temporary field position during a battle or at the siege of a fortress or a city.
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« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 October 24 16:28 BST (UK) »
@KGarrad - Thankyou for that.  My military history knowledge is close to zero pre WW1, so happy for any and all information anyone!
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 October 24 16:30 BST (UK) »
E.G. Amsterdam Battery
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amsterdam_Battery

Or could it refer to one of the forts in the North Sea?
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« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 October 24 16:47 BST (UK) »
My home town, Portishead, has a defunct Napoleonic installation on Battery Point!
Protecting the Bristol Channel/Severn Estuary from French attack.
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 October 24 17:24 BST (UK) »
@KGarrad @ShaunJ.  Thankyou both.  Interesting reads all round and given that Phoebe cites 'Holland Batteries at Sea' maybe could suggest it was a floating one,   What is a bit baffling for me is what women were doing on board for her to have been born there?  Would it have been normal to have women in/on a battery?  And would they have been British or was it possible that they may have been Dutch for example if it was in or around Holland as she suggests?  Any thoughts?
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 October 24 17:48 BST (UK) »
@ShaunJ     I've tried to work out who he is - but haven't been able to prove which one he might be There are several William R's around and although all villages are close by, I can't assume any of them.     I also link to some of these Richardson families through my paternal line (Phoebe & James are a maternal line), so have researched a good swathe of the local Richardson families and no sign of a likely James in the mix.    It's fairly possible that I might link with him through both M & P lines - such is the gene puddle of Staffordshire Moorland families! 
RATCLIFFE, BARLOW, BERESFORD, BLOOR, BYATT, DAKIN, KENT, LEES, MORTON, NORCLIFFE, OAKS, OSBORNE, PARKS, RICHARDSON, ROBINSON, SORTON, WETTON, WARRINGTON, WATTS, WOOD, WOLVERSCROFT (all from the Staffordshire Moorlands) - and specific interest in anyone who at any time lived in or around the village of ALTON