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Re: Ancestry's latest Ethnicity update to Ancestral Regions
« Reply #9 on: Friday 11 October 24 00:36 BST (UK) »
My Italian 2% has disappeared, and I now have France and Spain.
I know the Italian was correct they were my great-great- grandparents.
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Re: Ancestry's latest Ethnicity update to Ancestral Regions
« Reply #10 on: Friday 11 October 24 05:54 BST (UK) »
Just had to have a look at mine to see what had changed & my England & North-western Europe have gone up slightly to 91 with 5 from Netherland the Demark & Scotland 2.

The regional variant gives me Yorkshire & East Midlands which corresponds to most of my research but it does not any Cumbrian markers which is where my mothers fathers family came from.

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Re: Ancestry's latest Ethnicity update to Ancestral Regions
« Reply #11 on: Friday 11 October 24 06:17 BST (UK) »
I am thinking of changing my surname to Karlsdottir. Too soon?

At least my journeys (I stand corrected on that) still incorporate Australia and Northumbrian/ Scottish Borders heritage.

We can’t take it too seriously, but it is still fascinating.


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Re: Ancestry's latest Ethnicity update to Ancestral Regions
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 12 October 24 07:26 BST (UK) »
Half my Scottish has turned into Germanic, not really surprising, I guess we are just seeing further back in time.
Both interesting and confusing. Before long we will all be from the Steppes where most of European ancestry has shown to be from, apart from those few people who have Neolithic - Stonehenge ancestry, perhaps that is what my increased Irish / Breton region is.
From my YDNA I would estimate that this might be correct for somewhere about 1500 BCE!
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Re: Ancestry's latest Ethnicity update to Ancestral Regions
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 12 October 24 12:18 BST (UK) »
My Italian 2% has disappeared, and I now have France and Spain.
I know the Italian was correct they were my great-great- grandparents.
Sarra
Yes, they have badly messed up Italy, France, Spain ::) >:(, it's all back to how it was 4 years ago with Italians being reported as French in the north or Spanish in the south. As I pointed out several years back I suspected they had used erroneous samples from a well published French DNA study that didn't take into account the huge Italian migration to France of at least many hundreds of thousands of people from 1860s-1960s. Last year was great so it's baffling why they seem to have gone back to bad samples.

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Re: Ancestry's latest Ethnicity update to Ancestral Regions
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 12 October 24 12:22 BST (UK) »
Just had a quick look!

It seems that I'm now 2% Icelandic

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Isn't everyone  ::).

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Re: Ancestry's latest Ethnicity update to Ancestral Regions
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 12 October 24 12:23 BST (UK) »
This latest change looks even more pointless than before
All my (small) Scandinavian percentages (9%) have disappeared and I now have
England & Northwestern Europe 74% to 45%
Germanic Europe 8% to 32%
Scotland 3% to 16%
and the Netherlands 0 to 7%

while the Channel Islands and Northern Isles are shown as subsidiary regions
It's a complete disaster, has the leadership/chief scientists at Ancestry DNA changed? Too much focus on the ProTools development leaving not enough oversight or more junior staff left to oversee changes to the ethnicity component? Regarding the ridiculously high Germanic % I am now seeing for Brits, do they not realise that even if Brits tacitly accepted some Scandinavian component as really pertaining to ancient Viking links, why they might not be OK with Germanic pertaining to ancient Anglo-Saxon-Jute links? Somethings that happened in the last century perhaps :o.

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Re: Ancestry's latest Ethnicity update to Ancestral Regions
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 13 October 24 12:49 BST (UK) »
Yes, France had a very low birth rate in the 1850s and they encouraged many people from neighbouring countries to come to France so many Italian and Belgian people moved there, and then some Polish, Spanish and German. Most Italians settled in SW France or in Paris or NE France. Een the French language as a whole is a Romance language, and is said to be a branch of the Italic language like Spanish, Portuguese and Romanian.

I have found many Polish people have German ancestry, I know Polish Jews had Germanic surnames, but many non Jewish ethnic Poles have at least a slithering of German blood.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Ancestry's latest Ethnicity update to Ancestral Regions
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 13 October 24 21:43 BST (UK) »
I feel hard done by. No Icelandic ancestry!

I now have 49% Irish where my past two results were 49% and 48%, so very consistent. It is also specifically Connacht and my matches from several sites bear that out hugely. So far so good, especially as it is all on my paternal side, which is again logical.

However my maternal side should be strongly English and previously they got that about right. Now it is still the second highest percentage at 37% but somewhat lower than before.

I used to have 11% Scotland which I couldn't fathom but that has now fallen to 2% but instead I now have 9% Germanic which I didn't have before (the remainder are small insignificant areas). I must re-visit my German text book.

Tony