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McGaw Tullyvallen
« on: Tuesday 08 October 24 22:11 BST (UK) »
Can anyone make out the name of the informant on this birth certificate?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02969/2087552.pdf

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Re: McGaw Tullyvallen
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 08 October 24 23:36 BST (UK) »
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Re: McGaw Tullyvallen
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 08 October 24 23:41 BST (UK) »
I thought Sarah Harrington

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Re: McGaw Tullyvallen
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 October 24 23:47 BST (UK) »
Warmington looks good and as you found they were in the area.

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Re: McGaw Tullyvallen
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 October 24 23:49 BST (UK) »

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Re: McGaw Tullyvallen
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 October 24 16:38 BST (UK) »
Thanks I thought Hartington or Harrington but couldn’t see any local.

I am trying to piece together my great great grandmother’s life but tying myself in knots.

What I know for sure is she had my great grandfather John in Tullyvallan in 1878 no father recorded as above. I know John had at least two half siblings Jean/Jane and Minnie. In 1901 he was in Scotland and was going by the name John Chambers (census). He married in Loughgilly 1902 and gave his fathers name as John Chambers (farmer)

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1902/10281/5741897.pdf

Sadly his wife Lizzie dies and he remarried in Scotland and states his mother is Mary McClelland, formerly Chambers nee McGaw. I can’t see any marriage for Mary McGaw and John Cambers in Ireland or Scotland so I am not convinced they were married.

So I presumed this was her marriage to John McClelland where it says she is a spinster.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1885/10882/5974393.pdf

I also presumed this is them in 1901 and 1911

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__Anne_s/Ballymurphy_Street/981803/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__Anne_s/Ballymurphy_Street/981803/

The big problem with these presumptions is this Mary would only be around 12 in 1878 when John was born if this is the correct Mary and her age is roughly correct.

So as it stands I can’t really say anything for sure about her. Curiously there is another illegitimate birth in Castleblaney 1873 a Mary Jane McGaw born to Mary Jane McGaw,

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1873/03201/2173775.pdf










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Re: McGaw Tullyvallen
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 October 24 14:08 BST (UK) »
Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: McGaw Tullyvallen
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 November 24 22:46 GMT (UK) »
My maternal great grandmother was Sarah Warmington from Tullyvallen who married John Bailie.
I remember from my research that there is another Sarah Warmington from Tullyvallen about the same age but not related to me ( I think)
I also have McGaw/ Megaw/Megaw on my paternal side but from Skerrif townland , still in the same general area.

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Re: McGaw Tullyvallen
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 November 24 00:51 GMT (UK) »
When they marry in 1885, John is full age which generally meant over the age of 21.  For women, full age was generally aged 18, but she is considerably older than he is the 1901 census.  Your second link in your post is also for the 1901 census so here's the correct one for 1911:

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/St__Anne_s_Ward/Falls_Road/182624/

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