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Hardes / Hards Family of Kilconquhar 1700s
« on: Monday 07 October 24 01:35 BST (UK) »
I had great help in RootsChat for clearing a brick wall for our Fraser family.  I now am looking for help please to chart my Hardes/Hards roots in the Kilconquhar, Fife area.
Background:- Some years back there was a Hards Family Society in England who had created a database of the Hards/ Hardes/Hardres etc families that had their main roots in Kent - all the way along the lower south of England. They used to provide A3 paper family charts to subscribers.  I have 5 pages of my branch of the huge tree. There were many branches (over 100 it seems). That Society stopped when the managers passed away and, it seems, a few family members were left with some records. The person I got my paper charts from said she had a corrupt database of her fathers which I offered to try and resurrect for her. I managed to salvage a list of names and some data which I copied to a Excel spreadsheet for easy sorting etc. (4500 names)
Together with a cousin here in Australia we are trying to piece together some of the tree, and we have created a private FaceBook group called Hards Family Genealogy Group.
One of the family groups of Hardes in the spreadsheet come from Fife (Kilconquhar area) and I'm hoping that someone in this RootsChat group can help me piece together the tree structure of this small group.  I have managed only to identify a few parent child relationships as you can see from the one attachment. Looking at Scotland's People  I see there are more Hardes that my spreadsheet doesn't include.
FamilySearch have most of the names I have in the spreadsheet but with no links to any other family members.  I have managed to piece together using the FS records the image of the attached piece of the tree.
I would love to hear from anyone who can help
Hards Fraser Frazer Ainslie Campbell

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Re: Hardes / Hards Family of Kilconquhar 1700s
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 October 24 09:37 BST (UK) »
Why bother with the incomplete data at FS etc when the original records are all indexed at Scotland's People, and the original documents are available to view?

See screenshot as an example. It looks as if there may have been some confusion between Hard(e)(s) and Hard(ie)(y)

Girsal and variants are female. See https://www.whatsinaname.net/php/search.php?action=search2&search_name=grizel
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Hardes / Hards Family of Kilconquhar 1700s
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 October 24 10:14 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the search details.  I struggled to find where the parents details could be entered in. Found that now and I'll see how it goes now.  I use FS and I try to update FS too as it helps sometimes to get hold of the actual documents free. They are reasonably good and I can, at least, pull down branches of my tree that I find using my RootsMagic program - which works pretty well with both FS and Ancestry.
The Hards name variations seem to depend on where they have been living and, I guess, names were written down by literate officials and spelling how they heard it pronounced.
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 October 24 10:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the search details.  I struggled to find where the parents details could be entered in.
Yes. In the latest version of the SP web site you have to put in the child's name, update, and then refine, and only then can you put in the parents' names. Very annoying.

But at least, unlike FS, when you do put in parents' names and place of birth, it only returns those that actually match your search. It's pretty irritating when you put a mother's name into the FS index, and it returns dozens of results with completely different mothers' names on the other side of the Atlantic.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.