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Re: Brennans of Ballitore
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 03 October 24 14:03 BST (UK) »
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Patrick was my maternal grandfather. He joined the army in the early 1930s, and was stationed at the then Portobello barracks in Rathmines. He married a local girl, named Mary, and had six children.

Is this the marriage?

On 2 October 1935 to Mary Mulligan at Terenure RC Church, Dublin.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1935/08950/5239536.pdf

KG

Yep, that's my grandparents. <3

Now the Mulligans(my grandmother's family)......that's a whole different tale.

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Re: Brennans of Ballitore
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 03 October 24 16:15 BST (UK) »
When Mary Mulligan of Harolds Cross Road, Terenure, married Patrick in 1935, her Father is named Patrick, a Groom.

At the same Harold’s Cross address in 1941, Patrick (Groom) was described as a widower when he died.  See:-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1941/04705/4256380.pdf

Do you know the name of Mary’s Mother?


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Re: Brennans of Ballitore
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 03 October 24 16:50 BST (UK) »
When Mary Mulligan of Harolds Cross Road, Terenure, married Patrick in 1935, her Father is named Patrick, a Groom.

At the same Harold’s Cross address in 1941, Patrick (Groom) was described as a widower when he died.  See:-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1941/04705/4256380.pdf

Do you know the name of Mary’s Mother?

Mary's mother was Margaret Mahon, of Windy Arbour, born 18th of November 1881. The big mystery surrounding Patrick Mulligan is his date of birth; his death certificate states that he was 49 when he passed, but I can't find any birth record for him.

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Re: Brennans of Ballitore
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 03 October 24 22:29 BST (UK) »
Death cert ages are often incorrect, people didn’t keep track of their ages as we do today and the informant was often making a guess.



Is this Patrick in 1911 and his marriage in 1908

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1908/10056/5657492.pdf

http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_West/Harold_s_Cross_Road/67041/
That would give a birth year of about 1882, however on his marriage his father Thomas is a van driver so this looks like the family in 1901
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Kingstown/Ard_s_Cottages/1318433/
Which would give a birth year of about 1888
There is a birth of a Patrick Mulligan in 1888 to Thomas Mulligan and Lizzy Staunton but Thomas is a gardener
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1888/02518/1933264.pdf
When Peter is born Thomas is a porter
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02152/1816260.pdf

I can’t find Margaret.

So jump to 1911
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__3/Desmond_Avenue/91570/
Problem with this is it say 4 living children, this can sometimes be a misunderstanding between alive and living at home but it’s need following up
Anyway when Myles was born Thomas was a van driver.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1905/01764/1694677.pdf




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Re: Brennans of Ballitore
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 03 October 24 22:54 BST (UK) »
There are two Patrick Mulligan boys deaths in Rathdown reg district between 1901 and 1911
One 14 in 1901 a Farm labourer’s son with a different address the other 13 in 1902 a labourer’s son died in an Industrial School where he is in 1901 census.

So I think the other family is still a possibility for your Patrick.

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Re: Brennans of Ballitore
« Reply #14 on: Friday 04 October 24 14:33 BST (UK) »
My great uncle Patrick Mulligan died in 1918 at the age of six from Pott's Disease. My grandmother, Mary, had one sister(Anne), and two surviving brothers(John and James). They lived in and around the Harolds Cross area, with my great grandfather Mulligan working for Byrne's Dairy at 274 Harolds Cross Road. The building is still there, but it's now an Indian take away with a print shop where the stables were.

I've hit a brick wall with my great grandfather Mulligan's line, although I managed to trace the Brennan line back to Dublin in 1744.

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Re: Brennans of Ballitore
« Reply #15 on: Friday 04 October 24 14:48 BST (UK) »
My great uncle Patrick Mulligan died in 1918 at the age of six from Pott's Disease. My grandmother, Mary, had one sister(Anne), and two surviving brothers(John and James). They lived in and around the Harolds Cross area, with my great grandfather Mulligan working for Byrne's Dairy at 274 Harolds Cross Road. The building is still there, but it's now an Indian take away with a print shop where the stables were.

I've hit a brick wall with my great grandfather Mulligan's line, although I managed to trace the Brennan line back to Dublin in 1744.

Wouldn’t that Patrick died age 6 be Patrick and Margaret’s son.
I was looking for birth of his father Patrick married to Margaret Mahon.

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Re: Brennans of Ballitore
« Reply #16 on: Friday 04 October 24 16:32 BST (UK) »
My great uncle Patrick Mulligan died in 1918 at the age of six from Pott's Disease. My grandmother, Mary, had one sister(Anne), and two surviving brothers(John and James). They lived in and around the Harolds Cross area, with my great grandfather Mulligan working for Byrne's Dairy at 274 Harolds Cross Road. The building is still there, but it's now an Indian take away with a print shop where the stables were.

I've hit a brick wall with my great grandfather Mulligan's line, although I managed to trace the Brennan line back to Dublin in 1744.

Wouldn’t that Patrick died age 6 be Patrick and Margaret’s son.
I was looking for birth of his father Patrick married to Margaret Mahon.

The 6 year old is Patrick and Margaret's son, yes.

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Re: Brennans of Ballitore
« Reply #17 on: Friday 04 October 24 17:30 BST (UK) »
The 6 year old is Patrick and Margaret's son, yes.

Patrick James Mulligan (transcribed as Malligan).
Born 10 April 1912 at 64 South Richmond Street.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01493/1607093.pdf


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