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Brennans of Ballitore
« on: Tuesday 01 October 24 17:26 BST (UK) »
I'm looking for more information on my grandfather's side of my family. I've been lucky enough to visit Ballitore, and I know the bare bones of information(I have contact details for some of my mother's surviving cousins).

My great grandfather was Peter Brennan(1865 - 1916). His wife was Ellen neι O'Shaugnessy (1881 - 1954). They had six children, four boys(Patrick, Peter John, Joseph, and Michael) and two daughters(Bridget Ellen and Mary Josephine). Peter worked as a groom and labourer, and they would travel to Cheltenham during racing season.

My great uncle Michael is a mystery. I've been told he died when he was 10, as a result of an accidental drowning. However, the only record I can find is of a child of the same name in Ennis, Co.Clare, so I'm not sure if that's him.
I'm also trying to find what stud my great grandfather would have worked for.

I'd be really grateful if anyone could help.

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Re: Brennans of Ballitore
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 October 24 07:57 BST (UK) »

Welcome to RootsChat  :)


My great uncle Michael is a mystery. I've been told he died when he was 10, as a result of an accidental drowning. However, the only record I can find is of a child of the same name in Ennis, Co.Clare, so I'm not sure if that's him.


The Michael Brennan (aged 10) who died in Co Clare was a labourer's son. He died 25 March 1921 as a result of accidental drowning. His father John was the informant. The townland is hard to make out. (https://www.townlands.ie/)  #468
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1921/05094/4398961.pdf


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Re: Brennans of Ballitore
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 October 24 09:01 BST (UK) »
Hi

There was a Michael Brennan born 1911 to John Brennan and Bridget nee Sullivan of Bearnageeha, Ennis, which seems to match the age and address of the child drowned in 1921.  See below:-

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1911/01515/1615422.pdf

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Re: Brennans of Ballitore
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 October 24 10:07 BST (UK) »
I’ve tried all sorts of searches in the local papers and can’t find any mention of a drowning for Michael or any other kind of death, lots of other boys from all parts of the country.

Lots of things got overlooked in that period due to the War of Independence etc but you would expect something for a tragic child death, that said he’s not the first accidental child death with no newspaper report or death cert I’ve encountered, last one at least had a burial record.


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Re: Brennans of Ballitore
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 October 24 10:35 BST (UK) »
Peter Brennan (domestic servant), wife Ellen and sons Peter John (5), Joseph (2) and Michael (1) in 1911 census-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kildare/Ballitore/Ballitore/538666/
Michael born in England- since the family travelled back and forth could Michael have died there age 10 c1920?
1911 census says Ellen had 4 children, all living. Likely one of the children staying elsewhere on census night.
Note: Peter & Ellen married in 1904 in Newbridge (Naas registration district)
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Re: Brennans of Ballitore
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 October 24 10:43 BST (UK) »
Son Peter John born 1906 in Brownstown (also Naas registration district)- father's occupation is groom-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1906/01753/1691318.pdf
Mary Josephine born 1907-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01688/1670877.pdf
Joseph born 1908- father Horse Trainer resident in Cheltenham at the time of birth registration-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1908/01646/1657495.pdf
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Re: Brennans of Ballitore
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 02 October 24 12:54 BST (UK) »

Son Patrick born 11 July 1912 at Ballitore.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01482/1603420.pdf

Daughter Bridget Ellen born 20 November 1916 at Ballitore. Her father Peter was deceased.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01320/1545658.pdf

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1911 census says Ellen had 4 children, all living. Likely one of the children staying elsewhere on census night.

Mary Brennan (3) staying with her grandparents.
House 2 in Kilbelin, part of (Rural) (e) (Morristownbiller, Kildare).
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kildare/Morristownbiller/Kilbelin__part_of__Rural___e_/568004/



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Re: Brennans of Ballitore
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 02 October 24 14:42 BST (UK) »

Son Patrick born 11 July 1912 at Ballitore.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01482/1603420.pdf

Daughter Bridget Ellen born 20 November 1916 at Ballitore. Her father Peter was deceased.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01320/1545658.pdf

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1911 census says Ellen had 4 children, all living. Likely one of the children staying elsewhere on census night.

Mary Brennan (3) staying with her grandparents.
House 2 in Kilbelin, part of (Rural) (e) (Morristownbiller, Kildare).
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kildare/Morristownbiller/Kilbelin__part_of__Rural___e_/568004/

Patrick was my maternal grandfather. He joined the army in the early 1930s, and was stationed at the then Portobello barracks in Rathmines. He married a local girl, named Mary, and had six children. Mary passed away in January 1962, and Patrick died in June 1970.

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Re: Brennans of Ballitore
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 02 October 24 20:26 BST (UK) »
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Patrick was my maternal grandfather. He joined the army in the early 1930s, and was stationed at the then Portobello barracks in Rathmines. He married a local girl, named Mary, and had six children.

Is this the marriage?

On 2 October 1935 to Mary Mulligan at Terenure RC Church, Dublin.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1935/08950/5239536.pdf

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