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Decipher this shorthand from an elderly family member
« on: Monday 23 September 24 15:14 BST (UK) »
Hello!
I’m new to this forum and found it as I’m trying to decipher this piece of shorthand written by my grandmother. She is British and in her 80’s, if that is helpful.
The shorthand may be related to a flight - so could just be a string of letters?
Any help or insight at all is SO appreciated.

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Re: Decipher this shorthand from an elderly family member
« Reply #1 on: Monday 23 September 24 22:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Glass crystal and welcome to Rootschat  :)

There are a few shorthand writers on this forum so hopefully we can help.

There are many different types of shorthand but this does look like Pitman to me. It works by recording mainly the consonant sounds with the occasional vowel noted.

So here we have three or four 'outlines' but each could be several different words, it's not individual letters that are recorded.

One possibility is "number not recognised" .

I've also sent it to a friend from college who is going to take a better look tomorrow, but she thought the first outline could be "member" and the last possibly "recommended".

It's difficult to read another person's shorthand as we all develop our own shortcuts and with little idea of context we might not come up with a definite answer.

Will let you know if we come up with anything more 🙂

Good luck with your research!
Heather
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Re: Decipher this shorthand from an elderly family member
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 24 September 24 17:15 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RC glasscrystal.

I agree with Heather that it's Pitman shorthand but it's always difficult to decipher short pieces like this taken out of context.

As the writer hasn't used vowels on the first outline I'm assuming it's a shortform and that outline would thus stand for either 'member' or 'number'.  As far as the final outline is concerned, I agree with  Heather that it is possibly 'recognised'.  Another possibility is 'recommenced'.  I think the chances are that the second outline, as already suggested, is 'not'. So it's a matter of shuffling that lot around to see if you can get something to make sense!  As I said, it's difficult when short pieces like this are out of context.
Kind regards - and a 'Nice to see you again' to Heather! 
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Re: Decipher this shorthand from an elderly family member
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 September 24 20:18 BST (UK) »
Good to see you too Greensleeves  :)

Hope we've helped a bit Glasscrystal  :D

Heather
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Re: Decipher this shorthand from an elderly family member
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 September 24 23:26 BST (UK) »
Hi, I would hazard a guess at "particular (or particulars) not recognised".  I don't think the first outline is number or member as what has been written is missing some of the outline for both of these words; it has the "ber" outline but not the "mem" or "num".  Also, the "ber" outline, if written above the line, could be "particular".  But, as mentioned previously, always difficult to read someone else's shorthand.  If we could see more of the page, it might help  :)

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Re: Decipher this shorthand from an elderly family member
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 September 24 23:51 BST (UK) »
It’s been a long time, but I think that the Ber outline is also a ‘short form’ for number or member, so a bit of guesswork required. The author would likely recall the intention of their action.

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Re: Decipher this shorthand from an elderly family member
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 26 September 24 10:41 BST (UK) »
Wow, thank you all! This is a whole new world to me. You are all wonderful geniuses. I understand now that shorthand is very personal and difficult to decipher without certain context. It’s certainly a mystery but has piqued my interest. I’m afraid I won’t be able to provide an answer as to what my grandmother meant when she wrote it but thank you for your quick and thorough help!  :) :) :) :)

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Re: Decipher this shorthand from an elderly family member
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 28 September 24 01:45 BST (UK) »
Glad to have been of some help  :)
Thanks for your thanks and please post again if there's anything else we may be able to help with  ;D

This is a great forum with very nice folk who can help with all sorts of puzzles  :D

Heather
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