Author Topic: Ramsdens of Halifax, Elland & Huddersfield  (Read 296 times)

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Ramsdens of Halifax, Elland & Huddersfield
« on: Monday 23 September 24 13:44 BST (UK) »
I’m on a bit of a mission, though it may prove to be fruitless.

I recently had my DNA tested via Ancestry & have made a fascinating connection with the Kenny’s of Ballinrobe, Mayo. One member of the family David Courtney Kenny 1779-1847, Lt. Gen. in the Madras Army appears to have had a child out of wedlock by a South African woman. His illegitimate son went on to produce heirs, 2 generations later, a daughter Violet Johanna Maria Kenney 1881- 1973 married an immigrant from the U.K. in the Cape, South Africa. His name was John Henry Ramsden 1888-1934 & his father Rhodes Ludlam Ramsden, born in Huddersfield in 1855 came down from Henry Ramsden 1764-1804 born in Elland.

Now, my DNA match to the Kenny’s of Ballinrobe led me to an ancestor Agnes Bickerstaff Ramsden born Halifax in 1793 who married John Rhodes Ralph born Halifax 1786. BTW these connections come via Burke, B. (1912). A genealogical and heraldic history of the landed gentry of Ireland. Harrison & sons, so pretty trustworthy I’d say.

The thing that has grabbed my interest is the surname Ramsden from Yorkshire plus the middle name Rhodes, both of which appear prominently in my maternal line, along with the name Ludlam. I’ve done some reading & realise Ramsden & Yorkshire is like Cheddar & cheese, but the coincidence of both those names coming together by marriage in Halifax has made me wonder if my maternal line is somehow connected to the other Ramsden line.

I’ve tried unsuccessfully so far to find a common denominator ancestor, hence my post here - are there any Ramsden experts who may be able to help me link the 2 different branches? 🤞🏻

I’m looking forward to hearing from you.

Cheers

Chawi

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Re: Ramsdens of Halifax, Elland & Huddersfield
« Reply #1 on: Monday 23 September 24 16:19 BST (UK) »
You can find mention of the people you mention here
http://www.calderdalecompanion.co.uk/k.html#k442

This page brings up Kenny/Ramsden but there are several Ramsden entries.
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Re: Ramsdens of Halifax, Elland & Huddersfield
« Reply #2 on: Monday 23 September 24 16:26 BST (UK) »
Hi, thanks, I’ve seen those links, but struggled to find an overlapping Ramsden. I found them quite awkward to use as I couldn’t figure out a way to search them

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Re: Ramsdens of Halifax, Elland & Huddersfield
« Reply #3 on: Monday 23 September 24 17:04 BST (UK) »
I think you just have to scroll through them. I was only linking to the one family.

I am just rereading - which Ramsdens are you try to link?
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Re: Ramsdens of Halifax, Elland & Huddersfield
« Reply #4 on: Monday 23 September 24 17:18 BST (UK) »
I’m trying to link these Ramsdens - John Henry Ramsden 1888-1934 & his father Rhodes Ludlam Ramsden, born in Huddersfield in 1855 came down from Henry Ramsden 1764-1804 born in Elland

With these Ramsdens:

Ramsden, Rowland   Ref 56-163
[1759-1835]
Son of Thomas Ramsden.
Born in Halifax.

Halifax attorney. He lived and practised at Barum Top House.

On 3rd November 1789, he married Mary Alderson [1768-1794] in Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancashire.

Child: Agnes Bickerstaff [1793-1858] who married John Rhodes Ralph

In 1785, he inherited £100 from his grandfather Rowland Watson.

He lived [1820], and died, at Gomersal