Birth and early family records Mary WALSH

[heywood]

“I have managed to find 8 children.  John Thomas 1865, James Ivan ( sometimes called James William) 1870, Robert 1871, Margaret Ann 1874 -1874, Sophia 1875 - 1877, Ellis 1878, Joseph 1880, and my grandmother Sarah Alice 1883 ( born after her father died) .”

I think ‘James Ivan’ is a transcription on 1881 census, unless you have him with that name elsewhere. He is registered and baptised as James William in 1869.

Is he also missing in 1871?

[heywood]

Are there any clues from John Thomas Walsh’s birth record - informsnt, Mary’s address etc.
Is the address just Whitworth as Mary's marriage?
Do you have a baptism for him?

[aber]

Thank you

[aber]

Hi Heywood
I don’t have christening or baptism records for John Thomas born 1865 but do have John Thomas Walsh or Welsh on the 1871 Census staying at Meadow Nook, Wardle with his dad, Thomas Coupe, Coalminer.
James William is also missing from 1871 census. Thanks I hadn’t noticed that .
Meadow Nook is abode for family births and deaths between 1871 and 1876 according to parish register of St James the Apostle, Wardle.  Freereg.org.uk.
Mary’s address on marriage certificate is just “Whitworth” .
Thank you for your help.
Regards Aber

[amondg]

 James William (Ivan) Coupe is on the 1881 census age 11

He and his mother Mary must have been visiting somewhere the night of the 1871 census and have been omitted or mis transcribed.

[aber]

Thank you.

I have also found James William married with wife and family in the 1911 census.

Must have been missed on the 1871 census.

[wivenhoe]

"Married Thomas Coupe in 1867 at St Bartholomew's, Whitworth, Lancaster. "

Can you list all the information on the marriage certificate....witnesses, addresses, occupations...does everyone sign their name or use their mark?

[aber]

1867 marriage solemnised at St Bartholomew’s church in the parish of Whitworth in the county of Lancaster.
No. 372
When married December 7 1867.
Name and surname : Age: Condition: Rank or profession: Residence: Father Name: Fathers profession
Thomas Coupe  :        28 : Bachelor : Collier :                     Hades :    James Coupe: Collier
Mary Walsh:               22:  Spinster.  :  -         :                  Whitworth:  John Walsh:  Labourer
Solemnized by
Thomas Coupe ( his mark).                  In the presence of Mary Ann Crompton. ( her signature)
Mary Coupe (her mark).                                                  Samuel Taylor ( his mark)

Sorry I missed out the bit about Barms by J. Gaitskell.

Thank you for your interest.  I hope this gives you the information you need.