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Re: What happened to the children of people transported to Australia around 1825
« Reply #18 on: Friday 20 September 24 22:12 BST (UK) »
There is a CD by a group called The Transports, titled A Tale of Exile and Migration which tells the story of Henry Kable and Susanna Holmes, banished and transported in 1787. It's not only a terrific retelling in music, but also highlights some of the things that happened to the children of transportees. Henry and Susanna's story is quite amazing.

Also worth checking on is the shipwreck of transport ships in Table Bay, South Africa, where many being transported died as a result of the ships being caught in a storm. The ships were no more than hulks and not fit to sail. Caused quite a stir in Parliament. Apologies, but I can't quite remember the date on that one.
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Re: What happened to the children of people transported to Australia around 1825
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 21 September 24 18:26 BST (UK) »
I'm not entirely sure that the Elizabeth Blacklock convicted on 11 May 1835 is the same person as the one convicted on 26 October 1835.

The defendant in the first case was said to be 17 years old at the time, but according the the original post above she should have been about age 21 (11 years old in 1825). Also the Old Bailey Online page says that she was sentenced to six weeks in prison, but the case was also reported in at least four newspapers on 13 May 1835 and they all say the sentence was six months. If the actual sentence was six months, how could she have committed a further offence in September that year?

Incidentally, the Morning Advertiser (London) published on 15 Dec 1835 included a list of convicts who had removed from Newgate prison and transferred to the hulks at Woolwich, prior to transportation. Elizabeth Blacklock was included in that list and was said to be age 21.

EDIT: Just found another record confirming that the first sentence was indeed for only six weeks, not six months. (Can't believe the press!) If it was the same woman I can only assume she lied about her age hoping that she would get a light sentence. Seems to have worked!

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Re: What happened to the children of people transported to Australia around 1825
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 21 September 24 23:56 BST (UK) »
I'm not entirely sure that the Elizabeth Blacklock convicted on 11 May 1835 is the same person as the one convicted on 26 October 1835.

The defendant in the first case was said to be 17 years old at the time, but according the the original post above she should have been about age 21 (11 years old in 1825). Also, the Old Bailey Online page says that she was sentenced to six weeks in prison, but the case was also reported in at least four newspapers on 13 May 1835 and they all say the sentence was six months. If the actual sentence was six months, how could she have committed a further offence in September that year?

Incidentally, the Morning Advertiser (London) published on 15 Dec 1835 included a list of convicts who had removed from Newgate prison and transferred to the hulks at Woolwich, prior to transportation. Elizabeth Blacklock was included in that list and was said to be age 21.

EDIT: Just found another record confirming that the first sentence was indeed for only six weeks, not six months. (Can't believe the press!) If it was the same woman I can only assume she lied about her age hoping that she would get a light sentence. Seems to have worked!


Thanks for that insight, Dave, and I will take it under advisement...

Most of my data has come from the Convict Records, and especially from the Female Convict Research Center, which are usually "pretty reliable" but dependent on what has been told to them, and of course, the old "Chinese whispers" situation of "what they said is not necessarily what was recorded" always occurred.

Family anecdotes initiated this search and those family anecdotes appear to be supported by the Convict Records. The younger Sarah was convicted twice, the elder Sarah only once.

For the moment, I will continue as is.

Thank you for the research!


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Re: What happened to the children of people transported to Australia around 1825
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 08 October 24 05:10 BST (UK) »
If she was alive,mWould she not have been in the 1841 census either in UK or australia?
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Re: What happened to the children of people transported to Australia around 1825
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 08 October 24 06:05 BST (UK) »
If she was alive,mWould she not have been in the 1841 census either in UK or australia?

There are no Census records for Tasmania in 1841, and there is no indication that Elizabeth Blacklock returned to the UK as she married and died in Tasmania; thus, she would not appear in the 1841 England Census.


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Australia/England: Hardy, Miller, Turnbull, Comber, Mackie, Tilley
England: Barratt/Barrett, Berridge, Bird, Booth, Bostorne, Buszard/Bussard, Hill, Jacomb, Jarvis, Marston, Miller, Noon, Persival, Roe, Smalley, Tilley, Weston, Wheat, Witsey
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Scotland: Roxburghshire
Wales: Llewellyns, Jones, Gower, Bowen & Morgan