Lookup Request - Any mining disasters that occurred 3 Mar 1825

[AlanBoyd]

I stand corrected.

Hope you don't think I was criticising you Alan, I was just trying to explain so the OP understands and can decide whether or not to go ahead and access the site.

Boo

Not at all Boo, apologies if my response suggested that I was miffed – you explained something that I had never fully understood,

[ChrissieL]

Thank you for all your help so far, the Northumberland and Durham MIs have the headstone on record and it advises their DOD is the above date, could this have been mis-transcribed and could it actually be Jul 1825 and they were 2 unrecorded deaths in the pit disaster?

Are you willing to name them?  There may be more information about their deaths that rootschatters could unearth.  Are there any details about them on freereg.org

Chris

[Tickettyboo]

Thank you for all your help so far, the Northumberland and Durham MIs have the headstone on record and it advises their DOD is the above date, could this have been mis-transcribed and could it actually be Jul 1825 and they were 2 unrecorded deaths in the pit disaster?

As you haven't given either names or 'where' in Durham they were its difficult to help.

Have you looked for their burials? When/where were they buried? Burial would have been within a short time of death. was it in or near Fatfield in July ?

Free Reg, Family Search (both free), Durham Records Online (pay per view) are all resources that spring to mind that may help you find the burial date and answer your question.

Boo

[JenB]

Are you by any chance talking about Edward Barrass, overman of Penshaw Colliery and his son Thomas, both of whom died on 8th March 1825?
Link for those who use FindMyPast https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=GBPRS%2FNORTHUMDURHAM%2FMIS2%2F00040234&tab=this

[Tickettyboo]

That's the conclusion I came to as well JenB, though I then firkled and believe the MI is incorrect and both of these men were buried 09 Mar 1815 at Penshaw All Saints
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DCX3-DVH?i


Boo

[JenB]

Nothing like a good old firkle on a dreary day 

[JenB]

So, if we are talking about the right men, they were killed in a pit accident.
For some reason all the newspapers thought that Penshaw was in Cumberland.

On Wednesday week at Painshaw Colliery, Cumberland, four men having occasion to go down to examine the state of the air, they met what is called chock damp, and were struck senseless, when three of them Edward Taylor,  E. Barrass and T. Barrass, being precipitated to the bottom, were killed on the spot, the fourth was fortunately caught by the heels, and being pulled up, soon recovered.

Caledonian Mercury, 1st April 1815

[AlanBoyd]

Several of the other newspapers have it as ‘choak damp’, see Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackdamp?wprov=sfti1#

This incident and these names are not mentioned at the Durham Mining Museum site.

[AlanBoyd]

The earliest report I find at BNA gives the names as Jeremiah Taylor, Edward Barrass and Thomas Barrass. It also states "Painshaw colliery" with no other location. This is from the 21st March edition of the Tyne Mercury; Northumberland and Durham and Cumberland Gazette.

The reports in the London papers start on the 24th March and include Cumberland in the location (but the Carlisle Journal of 25th March does not.)

It's clear that the London papers were all based on a single text. The initial report in the Tyne Mercury says 'on Wednesday week'  and the reports in other papers go on using this phrase right up to the Royal Cornwall Gazette of April 8th (over two weeks later).