John Carlyon b.1901

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Returning here just to muddy the waters a little more 

I’ve not yet ordered John & Barbara’s marriage cert but will be doing it in the next week or so.

However, the Lanc OPC as well as having John’s baptism (and his half brother Sylvester) has this baptism;


Baptism: 3 Nov 1900 St Mary Poor House, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire
Josephus Walsh - filius Annae Walsh
    Born: 25 Oct 1900
    Godparent: Maria Halpin
    Baptised By: Roberto Molloy
    Register: Baptisms 1884 - 1916, Page 30, Entry 137
    Source: Original Register

All of them share the same godmother so I’m wonder if this Joseph is another brother? I can’t find a birth / death record for him, though.

A little more detailed article mentions Annie was living with a man named Jas Heyes at Salford.

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This seems to be the order of things?

25 October 1899 - Sylvester Walsh born at Union Workhouse, Ashton Under Lyne

March 1900 - Roland Booth & Annie Walsh marry

April 1900 - Annie goes to live with Jas Heyes at Salford

November 1900 - (possible) son Joseph Walsh baptised Union Workhouse, Ashton Under Lyne

January 1901 - Roland & Annie living at 1 Nield Street, Stalybridge

March 1901 - Annie at Queen Street, Stalybridge w/ her father, son and siblings

26 April 1901 - Annie admitted to the workhouse

1 July 1901 - John Carlyon born at Union Workhouse, Ashton Under Lyne

Edit:
Looks like another child to add to that

Catherine Walsh b 6 May 1903 13 Cross Street Stalybridge, daughter of Annie Walsh (operative cotton ring spinner)

And then

Booth, 32 Spring St
6 May 1903, baptised 10 January 19?4 Catherina Booth dau of Rolandi & Annie Booth (Walsh)
Godparents: Francis O’Brien & Joseph Conroy

CARLYON, CATHERINE       4 
GRO Reference: 1907  J Quarter in LANCHESTER  Volume 10A  Page 207

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Marriage cert delivered in the post today, confirms that Henry is John’s stepfather 

16 Oct 1920 at the Registry Office
John Carlyon (19), single, coal miner of 9 Ousterly Terrace, son of Henry Carlyon, coal miner
Barbara Hancox (19), single, Coronation St, dau of John Hancox, coal miner