John Carlyon b.1901

[Cas (stallc)]

Went looking to see what there was for George after your mention of him.

Bingo, looks like same family. Small orbit

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/103957032/george-booth

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I do.

Pawtucket Ward 6, Providence, Rhode Island, United States

Roland   Booth   Self   Married   Male   30   1880  Born England.
Elesebeth   Booth   Wife   Married   Female   34   1876  born England
Lenard   Booth   Son   Single   Male   7   1903 (born England)
Helda   Booth   Daughter   Single   Female   2   1908  born Rhode Island
Edith M   Booth   Daughter   Single   Female   0   1910  born Rhode Island

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[Cas (stallc)]

Great SS, hope you enjoyed your sunny tea break. It's tipping down in South Wales 

Think he may have married there also, quite a few children born. Any dates of leaving England?

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1920 & 1930

Rowland   Booth   Self   Married   Male   40   1880   England
Eliza   Booth   Wife   Married   Female   42   1878   England
Lawrence   Booth   Son   Single   Male   16   1904   England  (Looks as though should be Leonard)
Elder   Booth   Daughter   Single   Female   12   1908   Rhode Island
Alice   Booth   Daughter   Single   Female   8   1912   Rhode Island
John   Booth   Son   Single   Male   7   1913   Rhode Island
Rowland   Booth   Son   Single   Male   4   1916   Rhode Island
Irine   Booth   Daughter   Single   Female   2   1918   Rhode Island
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Roland   Booth   Head   Widowed   Male   49   1881   England
Irene   Booth   Daughter   Single   Female   12   1918   Rhode Island
Roland   Booth   Son   Single   Male   14   1916   Rhode Island
John   Booth   Son   Single   Male   17   1913   Rhode Island
Alice   Booth   Daughter   Single   Female   18   1912   Rhode Island
Leonard   Booth   Son   Single   Male   27   1903   England

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[AlanBoyd]

I think there is another Rowland Booth in Glossop, son of James and Martha.

[Cas (stallc)]

I think there is another Rowland Booth in Glossop, son of James and Martha.

Agree b c 1877 in 1939 with daughter Evelyn mmn Barton and death around 1951

[mulberry-rose]

Sorry I’ve just seen all of these new messages now!

Thank you all so much for the help, this is all incredible. softly softly thank you for purchasing the GRO record of birth, it’s very appreciated 

I’m hoping to order the marriage certificate for John this weekend.

[Cas (stallc)]

I think he believed his father was Henry Carlyon. So that is what is likely on marriage as father.

Annie and Roland seemed estranged before he was born, maybe he never knew Henry was not his father.  (See Stalybridge newsclip from AlanBoyd)

DNA testing can and does throw up some untruths of the paper trail research. I can vouch for it, concerning family secrets. It also can confirm.

There is lots more on familysearch regarding Roland and additional family.  States his arrival in US was 1904 and he was single. The mother of Leonard born 1903 was Elizabeth Ashton born Dunkinfield England. Not sure if they travelled together. (Gives an image for FindMyPast)

Not checked further children to see if same mother or if they married.

Cas