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Re: John Carlyon b.1901
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 05 September 24 13:30 BST (UK) »
Interesting, guess only the marriage cert would help prove if he is John Booth/Carlyon

Stockport is 7 miles from Stalybridge (genuki) Olive Carlyon registered Ashton in 1905 so family still around the area.

Wife died June 1928. So if it is him he remarried fast.
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Re: John Carlyon b.1901
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 05 September 24 13:34 BST (UK) »
John Booth
1 Jul 1901
Oct 1982
Oct-Nov-Dec
Manchester
Greater Manchester

Enid Lucy Booth
16 Jan 1902
Apr 1998
Stockport
Greater Manchester


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Re: John Carlyon b.1901
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 05 September 24 13:35 BST (UK) »
19 July 1901: Manchester Evening News

[marriage 1900 Q1 Ashton-under-Lyne
Roland Booth
Annie Walsh]
Boyd, Dove, Blakey, Burdon

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Re: John Carlyon b.1901
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 05 September 24 13:42 BST (UK) »
19 July 1901: Manchester Evening News

[marriage 1900 Q1 Ashton-under-Lyne
Roland Booth
Annie Walsh]

Great piece of info Alan! Re the newspaper clipping. So they married March 1900

Edit - 1901 census taken 31 March and with her father, so this would have been just after John was born.
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Re: John Carlyon b.1901
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 05 September 24 13:42 BST (UK) »
Forget John Booth, well documented on a tree.

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BOOTH, JOHN       HIGGINBOTTOM 
GRO Reference: 1901  S Quarter in ASHTON UNDER LYNE  Volume 08D  Page 447
 

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Re: John Carlyon b.1901
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 05 September 24 14:03 BST (UK) »
Wonder if this is him?  First son on grave born England

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/86901308/roland_booth
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Re: John Carlyon b.1901
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 05 September 24 14:07 BST (UK) »
Time out for afternoon tea and cake whilst sun shines

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Re: John Carlyon b.1901
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 05 September 24 14:45 BST (UK) »
Cas (stallc) @reply #41

Yes, I've been circling around that connection too. This is the tenuous story I have:

Rowland Booth birth registered 1879 Q3 Stockport

1881 census
Ashton-under-Lyne
John Booth, 35, carpenter, Huddersfield
Sarah, 36, Glossop
William, 14, Glossop
Mary, 9, Ashton
Emily J, 5, Hadfield
Rowland, 1, Hyde [close to Ashton]

1891 census
Glossop
John Booth, widr, 46
Emily J, 16, Hadfield
Rowland, 12, Ashton
George, 6, Ashton
John, 5, Ashton

Then Anc* suggests that both Rowland and George have subsequent records in USA, I don't have access to those records but Rowland has a 1910 US census record.

Note the Glossop connections; Glossop is 8 miles from Ashton, Stalybridge a little closer to Glossop.

There is a Leonard Booth born 1905 Q3 Glossop
Boyd, Dove, Blakey, Burdon

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Re: John Carlyon b.1901
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 05 September 24 15:12 BST (UK) »
Interesting, have viewed the same UK records. I don't have access to the US hints either.  He seems a very good candidate.

Without family DNA matches, it would be difficult to confirm if connected, or just a red herring.

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland