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John Carlyon b.1901
« on: Wednesday 04 September 24 17:24 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I need some help finding the parents and a death record for John Carlyon. He married Barbara Hancox at Chester-le-street in 1920. In the 1921 census they are living at 8 Alexandra Street, Pelton. Barbara died in 1928, buried at Pelton.

The 1921 census puts his age as 19yrs 11mths, born at Manchester, Lancashire. His occupation a pony putter at Craghead.

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Ford, Aynsley, Lewis, Brown, Myers (Durham)
Green, Dillon, Drain, Cox, Muldoon (Lanark)

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Re: John Carlyon b.1901
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 September 24 17:32 BST (UK) »
There is a 9 year old John Carlyon born in Lancashire living in Craghead with his parents Henry and Annie in 1911.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWHT-KDK
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Re: John Carlyon b.1901
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 September 24 17:32 BST (UK) »
You really need the marriage certificate to confirm his fathers name  :)

Maybe
CARLIN, JOHN       mmn JONES 
GRO Reference: 1902  March Quarter in SALFORD  Volume 08D  Page 148

Have you located him in 1939
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Re: John Carlyon b.1901
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 September 24 17:57 BST (UK) »
There is a 9 year old John Carlyon born in Lancashire living in Craghead with his parents Henry and Annie in 1911.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWHT-KDK

This looks intriguing, thank you! The younger sister sister Olive seems to have been born in Manchester. Younger sibs have MMN Walsh.
Allan, Bell, Bolam, Bollum, Burrell, Campbell, Colthard, Conroy, Harrison, Howey, Keeney , Keough, Kirkup, Muldoon, Rooney, Storey, Valentine, Weatherson, Weatherstone (Nthland)
Ford, Aynsley, Lewis, Brown, Myers (Durham)
Green, Dillon, Drain, Cox, Muldoon (Lanark)


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Re: John Carlyon b.1901
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 September 24 17:58 BST (UK) »
You really need the marriage certificate to confirm his fathers name  :)

Maybe
CARLIN, JOHN       mmn JONES 
GRO Reference: 1902  March Quarter in SALFORD  Volume 08D  Page 148

Have you located him in 1939

Unfortunately I’m not able to get the marriage cert right now. I do wish it was simpler to get them than ordering, etc.

No sign of him in 1939. Although his eldest daughter Annie (married Hall) is still living in Chester le street by then.
Allan, Bell, Bolam, Bollum, Burrell, Campbell, Colthard, Conroy, Harrison, Howey, Keeney , Keough, Kirkup, Muldoon, Rooney, Storey, Valentine, Weatherson, Weatherstone (Nthland)
Ford, Aynsley, Lewis, Brown, Myers (Durham)
Green, Dillon, Drain, Cox, Muldoon (Lanark)

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Re: John Carlyon b.1901
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 September 24 19:03 BST (UK) »
Ancestry strikes again - transcribed as Turgon in 1911🙄🙄
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: John Carlyon b.1901
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 September 24 19:18 BST (UK) »
John's mother not Annie as parents have only been married 6 years in 1911.

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Re: John Carlyon b.1901
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 September 24 19:19 BST (UK) »
1911 - daughter Lottie's birth ref  shows mmn Troon.  Henry Carlyon married Mary Annie Troon 1881 Falmouth

Harriet's birth reg shows mmn Walsh as does Olive

John Troon Carlyon birth 1903 on freebmd - mmn Troon
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: John Carlyon b.1901
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 September 24 19:20 BST (UK) »
There is a tree for Booth/Carlyon, but nothing is linked.....

There is this marriage

Marriages Mar Q 1900   
Booth    Roland        Ashton    8d   642    
Walsh    Annie        Ashton    8d   642

This possible baptism, that would possibly match 19 yrs 11 mths in June 1921

Name   Joannes Booth
Gender   Male
Baptism Age   0
Record Type   Baptism
Birth Date   1 Jul 1901
Baptism Date   15 Jul 1901
Baptism Church   Domo Pauperum
Baptism Place   Ashton-under-Lyne, Lancashire, England
Diocese   Salford
Father   Rowlandi Booth
Mother   Annae Booth

Henry with first wife & children in 1901 also called Annie nee Troon

Deaths Mar 1903   
Carlyon    Annie  age  42    Chester le S.    10a   304

Marriages Dec  Q 1910   
Booth    Annie        Lanchester    10a   539    
Carlyon    Henry        Lanchester    10a   539   

1911 found by Jen B for family.

I think he took his stepfather name

Possible death

Name   John Carlyon
Death Age   63
Birth Date   abt 1900
Registration Date   1963
Registration Quarter   Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district   Don Valley
Inferred County   Yorkshire West Riding
Volume   2b Page   470

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