Birth of Charles Wregg (or Wragg) in 1824

[Doddie]

Hi Neale1961, Peter's marriage record describes him as, "an Artillery man". He married Anne MacKenzie in Nairn, about 16 miles NE of Inverness.

Regards

Doddie

[Doddie]

I have just discovered that Peter & Ann Wragg had a daughter, Margaret Ann Wragg, who was born in Harwich, Essex in 1831. Does anybody know if this area had any connections with the Royal Artillery?

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Doddie

[Neale1961]

I have just discovered that Peter & Ann Wragg had a daughter, Margaret Ann Wragg, who was born in Harwich, Essex in 1831.

Information posted in reply 8, 30th August. 

[Doddie]

Hi Neale1961, to coin a phrase much used by Homer Simpson - “Doh!”. All of this investigating is addling my brain.

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Doddle

[Doddie]

"Peter Wragg of 8th Battalion RA, born Matlock, circa 1789, admitted to pension 1 October 1832:"

A breakthrough. I feel extremely sheepish if I'm honest. On Ancestry I have come across the catalogue titled, 'UK, Royal Hospital Chelsea Admissions Books, Registers and Papers, 1702-1980'. There are three entries for Peter Wragg.

1. This details some service information. Peter served with the 8th Battn. of the Royal Artillery until he was 43. He left as a result of suffering from chronic rheumatism. He had served a total of 25 years. He was born in 'Matlock Derby'. The date of admission for his pension was 1 October 1832.

2. This just details again the date of admission for Peter's pension as above and states his place of residence as Glasgow.

3. In this final entry Peter's name is scored out and in the column marked '1864' are the words "Died 11/1". Peter's place of residence when he died was Glasgow.

I had planned to send photos of the relevant pages but, the resolution wasn't the best.

Some information on various websites has the Peter Wragg that was born in Matlock as dying there too in 1842. This is not correct. This Peter and 'my' Peter are one and the same. On Peter Wragg's Scottish death certificate for the year 1864 his father is ,"Joseph Wragg, Silk Weaver (deceased)". I did notice in an earlier post the family details of the Wragg family. I turns out it was  Joseph that died in 1842.

Regards

Doddie

[Doddie]

Regarding ShaunJ's post (15) about Peter Wragg's foreign postings, I can clearly read France and Canada, but is the other one Madiera? The only reason I am having any doubts about this is that Madeira is not a country.

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Doddie

[shanreagh]

Regarding ShaunJ's post (15) about Peter Wragg's foreign postings, I can clearly read France and Canada, but is the other one Madiera? The only reason I am having any doubts about this is that Madeira is not a country.

Regards

Doddie

Madeira is an island in the Atlantic.

From Google
'Even though the island has never been an official colony of the British empire, it was occupied by British troops twice, played an important role in British trade and tourism, and achieved quasi-colonial status between the 15 th and 19 th centuries.'

[Doddie]

Hi, my last post about Peter Wragg, I promise! I have viewed Peter's army pension records. He served as a gunner with the RA for 25 years, leaving in 1832. He left the army as a result of chronic rheumatism. In the relevant listings for Peter it states in the column titled 'Rate' the figure of '1.2'. and the 'Date of Admission' as 'Oct. 32'. I am not sure if the 1.2 figure is a pension amount or his army pay. In a separate, but similarly related document, The heading of one page is, 'Statement of Service', and the heading of the other is, 'Description of the Pensioner'. Peter also appears in this document. I presume that  the information in these documents is indicative of the individuals listed being assessed for pensions. That  being the case, can anybody tell me how generous, or otherwise, an army pension during this period was? After the war Peter worked as a labourer in the iron industry.

Regards

Doddie

[Andy J2022]

I have viewed Peter's army pension records. He served as a gunner with the RA for 25 years, leaving in 1832. He left the army as a result of chronic rheumatism. In the relevant listings for Peter it states in the column titled 'Rate' the figure of '1.2'. and the 'Date of Admission' as 'Oct. 32'. I am not sure if the 1.2 figure is a pension amount or his army pay. In a separate, but similarly related document, The heading of one page is, 'Statement of Service', and the heading of the other is, 'Description of the Pensioner'. Peter also appears in this document. I presume that  the information in these documents is indicative of the individuals listed being assessed for pensions. That  being the case, can anybody tell me how generous, or otherwise, an army pension during this period was?

Yes the figure of 1 shilling and 2d was his daily pension rate. This compares with a typical agricultural labourer's wage of 1s 8d per day (1830) or 1s 9d (1840); coal miner 2s 8d (1830) or 2s 7d (1840); building labourer 2s 4d (1830) or 2s 5d (1840). Source: Clark, Gregory 2018 "Average Earnings and Retail Prices, UK, 1209-2017" See https://www.measuringworth.com/datasets/ukearncpi/earnstudyx.pdf