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Lloyd London mystery add on
« on: Wednesday 28 August 24 20:37 BST (UK) »
Hi, I have a very long thread in the London section called Lloyd London Mystery, its about 10 years in the making, but I have just found a person (or 2) that I need help with,
i have posted it on that thread but no one has looked so wondered if I could ask here ?
The main people in that thread are John Ballard Lloyd and his partner Lavinia Ann Cheatham and I have found a child called Lavinia Ann Ballard Lloyd (and her brother James Ballard Lloyd) by William Lloyd and Elizabeth nee Tomlin

i have found a baptism for a Devinia Ann Ballard Lloyd which grabbed my attention and I got her digital birth and death certs ,  theres obviously been a mistake in the spelling of her name , her mother could only sign with a cross so ...
anyway heres all the info,
birth cert,
Lavinia Ann Ballard Lloyd 27th july 1885,
91 Ancill street, Fulham,
father William Lloyd, Mat Weaver
mother Elizabeth Lloyd , Formerly Tomlin.

Baptism
14th Oct 1885 at st Andrews west kensington , Fulham
born 25th july 1885
Devinia Ann Ballard Lloyd
William and Elizabeth Lloyd
wheeler
91 Bayonne road, Fulham

Death
4th Nov 1886 aged 16 mths
Devinia Ann Ballard Lloyd
daughter of William Lloyd Matting Weaver
91 Bayonne road Fulham
cant read what she died of

so is she named after Lavinia Ann (cheatham) Lloyd and John Ballard Lloyd ???
I cant find any marrige of William to Elizabeth Tomlin
and I can't find any William Lloyd connected to any of my Lloyds ???
any idea

thanks
Andria
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Re: Lloyd London mystery add on
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 August 24 21:39 BST (UK) »
I have not seen or been involved in your previous thread, so I won't be able to recognise possible links, but I suppose I will be able to give an unbiased perspective?

Anyway, a general search for a William Lloyd in Fulham around the right age with a profession of mat maker/weaver throws up this man:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK65-ZL45

Profession is given as mat maker on image; he is born c.1843 in Chelsea. However, he is with his wife, Lucy, and their children.

But in 1891:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:3PP5-L3Z

He is now with wife Elizabeth, two children from his previous marriage (Charlotte and Arthur Lloyd) and "nephews" Charles Bateman, born c.1875, and Samuel Bateman, born c.1880.

Which throws up the possibility that Elizabeth was formerly Bateman before she married William. Their 1884 marriage certificate confirms that this was the case, with Elizabeth's maiden name being Tomlin:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tdm/

So William was the son of Edward Lloyd, also a weaver; does that name ring a bell?

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Re: Lloyd London mystery add on
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 August 24 21:50 BST (UK) »
A quick look suggests that William's father Edward was born c.1816 in Bethnal Green and married Susannah Price on 25th December 1838. Edward's father was John Lloyd, a framemaker.

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Re: Lloyd London mystery add on
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 29 August 24 01:40 BST (UK) »
William LLoyd age 27 - weaver  married Lucy Ann Atkins age 27 on 15 October 1870 St Jude, Upper Chelsea.
His father Edward Lloyd weaver
Her father William Atkins - deceased.

Witness Francis Thomas Atkins and Emma L... (Hales?) ink smudged.   

They had
William Francis 1871 reg. Kensington
John Edward reg 1872 Kensington
Samuel George reg 1874 Kensington
Susan Emily reg. 1875 Fulham
Charlotte Maria reg. 1877  Fulham
Arthur Francis reg. 1879  Fulham
Lucy Ann reg. 1882  reg. Fulham
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His wife Lucy Ann Lloyd death reg. 1882 age 40 Fulham.


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Re: Lloyd London mystery add on
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 01 September 24 20:49 BST (UK) »
hi, sorry been away for a week so not seen this,
I'll have a proper look and see if I can connect anything,
but thank you so much for everything you have found  ;D
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Re: Lloyd London mystery add on
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 01 September 24 21:25 BST (UK) »
looks like you were spot on with the right William, just found a school record for Arthur Lloyd and Samuel Bateman (william marked as stepfather) and their address is 91 bayonne road !
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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