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Hi
Old Welsh Wills from NLW have copies of Bonds with "Bounders" who warrant execution of the deceased bequests.
The Welsh Wills with Bonds identify "Bounders" accepting responsibility for executing the details of the Wills.
That is OK and understandable.
What I would like to know is who selects the Bounders (probably the Lawyer who sets up the Bond, who sometimes signs the Bond), but how are the BOUNDERS selected? There are always two of them, and the first one specified is usually a member of the deceased family. The second bounder is often a wealthy individual with status, such as "gentleman". Is the second bounder a person related somehow to the deceased?
There is usually an annotation to the Will (in Latin) signifying satisfactory probate. Is the absence of probate approval significant?
All assistance in these rather obscure questions will be gratefully received..
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Re: Welsh Wills from NLW have copies of Bonds with "Bounders" who warrant execution
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 September 24 12:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Llanfihangel,

I can't help you directly but since your post has yet to receive a response, I'm replying in order to bump it back up onto the home page. That will give it another chance to be noticed, hopefully by  someone able to answer your questions.

In the meantime, I have a few suggestions:

> You could ask the Mods to move your post to Rootschat's Wales Board. (I should think one of your compatriots is more likely to be able to answer your questions.) To contact the Mods, I think you need to click on "Report to moderator" at the bottom of your post, on the right-hand side. 

> A shorter, snappier title for your post might grab more attention. Perhaps something like: "Welsh Wills at NLW - the Bounders!" (From what you say, the word "Bounder" has a different meaning in the context of Welsh Wills; but it's widely understood to mean "dishonourable person". So the heading I've suggested might be more noticeable.) The Mods would, I imagine, be able to alter the title for you.

> Have you tried emailing your questions to NLW?

> What about Archives Wales?

> What about a local FHS? Genuki lists Welsh FHS at:   

https://www.genuki.org.uk/Societies/Wales

> What about a History Society? (Local history rather than family history.)

> What about the History Department of a Welsh university?

The answers you need must be out there somewhere and I do hope you find them soon.

Best of luck!

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Re: Welsh Wills from NLW have copies of Bonds with "Bounders" who warrant execution
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 September 24 20:17 BST (UK) »
Hellp theirchild
Thanks for your helpful advice. I think I will look elsewhere for this information. In any case, most of the Bounders (Bondsmen) are related to the deceased in some way or another.

best regards
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