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OPR Kilsyth 1646
« on: Sunday 25 August 24 10:37 BST (UK) »
15 March 1646 is a list of baptisms on that day.    Help needed in deciphering.

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Re: OPR Kilsyth 1646
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 August 24 12:38 BST (UK) »
I can only get Wm Allan and Gilbert XXx being the witnesses

5th line end
.......witnesses
Wm Allan and Gilbert xxxxx

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Re: OPR Kilsyth 1646
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 25 August 24 13:24 BST (UK) »
There are two baptisms listed here - Robert son of Ninian Miller and John son of David Gray.  (The names of the mothers are not given.)

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Re: OPR Kilsyth 1646
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 25 August 24 22:13 BST (UK) »
15 mche

The q(uhi)lle day Robert baptized to
Nininan Miller witnesses Jo(h)n Patrick
and Jo(h)n birn Allsoe Jo(h)n baptized
to david gray m gart Schoir Witnesses
Wm Allan and gilbert Lang & Johne
gillises ane other



‘quhille’ is Old Scots for ‘which’
'ane ' - one

I'm not sure what the 'm' stands for, or the possible name after it, in the second baptism, but as you're interested in the first baptism of Robert, this won't be of significance.
It may well be 'in', (this scribe doesn't dot any of his 'i's, which makes in  more difficult to distinguish the letter from other letters), in which case the words may be a place name.

It would be useful to see a little more of the page, or the register, to see if this sort of entry occurs at other times, which might give some clues to what it means.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs


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Re: OPR Kilsyth 1646
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 August 24 22:34 BST (UK) »
On more reflection I think that name is a place name.

A schoir was 'That part of a land mass which borders on the sea or, also, on a loch or river'.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: OPR Kilsyth 1646
« Reply #5 on: Monday 26 August 24 10:15 BST (UK) »
Thank you all.    I was looking for a place name and having seen a similar word on other entries I wrongly assumed that it was a place name.   It turns out be "witness".    Picking up new glasses today.   

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Re: OPR Kilsyth 1646
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 27 August 24 11:36 BST (UK) »
The q[uhi]lk day = The which day

david gray in gartschoir = David Gray in Gartshore

Johne gillisch ane elder = John Gillies an elder (of the kirk)