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The Titanic and Scarborough Connection
Submitted by Erasmus Harland, Yorkshire, England
Sir Edward Harland - Belfast, 1830

With the approach of the anniversary of the Titanic disaster, Scarborough,
England, can claim an important part of the story. The ship was built by the
Harland & Wolff shipyard in Belfast, Ireland, which was founded by Sir
Edward Harland. Edward was born in 1830 at #11 Newborough, now the site of
Marks & Spencer.

His father, Dr. William Harland, MD, was thrice mayor of Scarborough as well
as being a successful physician, with his own medicinal baths at the bottom
of Vernon Place. William became a friend of George Stephenson, whom he met
in 1820, during a visit to the Killingworth coal mine where George was
engine man. William shared a mechanic in Brompton with Sir George Caley, the
pioneer of aeronautics. William's model of his patented steam car is on
display in the Scarborough Museum today. His mother, Anne Pierson, was a
talented artist who helped her husband with his engineering drawings. Edward
described their house as a hive of industry with 11 children, the boys
building model boats and carriages, the girls busy with dolls houses and
furnishing them with dresses and furniture, all made by themselves.


When his elder brother Aurelius went to Edinburgh to study medicine in 1844,
he looked after Edward who was attending Edinburgh Academy. His father
wanted him to be a lawyer, but Edward insisted on becoming an engineer. At
the age of 15, he was apprenticed to Robert Stephenson & Co. as a draftsman
in Newcastle. His apprenticeship took five years, during which time he
worked from 7.30am to 8.30pm every day except Saturday when they knocked off
at 4.30pm. He went to work in Newcastle but soon left to take charge of a
shipyard in Belfast. A tough Scarborough man, he faced down a strike by the
workmen led by the previous owners, hired men from the Clyde and eventually
took over the yard. In partnership with Mr. Wolff, Edward founded Harland &
Wolff shipbuilders.

He was a technical
innovator and an aggressive businessman. In 1867, with Thomas Ismay,
he bought the White Star line for the Atlantic trade and supplied the ships.
Edward was created a baronet and elected MP and had fine houses in London
and Brompton. He died in 1895.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Addendum submitted by Liz Sly from correspondence with Tim Stephens, South
England, who took the information from a Belfast history book.
Edward Harland was a 23-year-old Yorkshireman when taken on by Hickson in
1845. His father, William, was three times Mayor of Scarborough, Yorkshire


Hickson sold
out to Harland in 1858, with the money largely provided by G. C. Schwabe of
Liverpool whose nephew was Gustav Wolff. Wolff is quoted to have said,
rather modestly, "Sir Edward Harland builds the ships for our firm; Mr.
Pirrie makes the speeches and as for me, I smoke the cigars." (Note: Pirrie,
a native of Belfast, presided over Harland & Wolff Shipyard during its
greatest years.) Wolff had great financial prowess and was able to obtain
orders for the firm. 500 were employed at the shipyard in 1861; 9,000 in
1900.

1.Dr. William Harland, JP, b. Abt. 1790; m. Anne Pierson, b. abt. 1800, of Scarborough, Yorkshire.
2.Margaret Ann, 1821-1860; m. Henry Hudson
3.Arthur Edward Hudson, 1854-1887.
3.William Harland Hudson, 1856-1915; m. 1896  Evaleen Dora Lyle Young, b. 1870, in Kyneton, Victoria, Australia, dau of Charles Young, b. 1825, Belfast, N. I. and Annabella (Annie) Lyle.
3.Herbert Lionel Hudson, 1857-1940; m. 1886 Alice Lyle Young, b. 1857, dau of Charles Young
And Annie Lyle.
2.William Aurelius Harland, c. 1823-1857, d. Hong Kong; m.abt. 1844 to  Mary Ann Foster.
2.Mary Harland, c. 1824-died ?.
2.John Sawdon Harland, b. Abt. 1828.
2.Erasmus Gowan Harland, b. Abt. 1829.
2.Sir Edward James Harland, 1831-1895; m. Rosa Wann
2.Eliza Harland, b. Abt. 1835.
2.Rev. Albert Augustus Harland b. 1838; m. Louisa Wilson.
2.Henry Seaton Harland, b. 1843
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« Reply #1 on: Friday 23 August 24 08:50 BST (UK) »
Young family
1.James Young, son of William Young, m. Mary Magee, dau of Daniel Magee,  Belfast.; James buried Clifton Street Cemetery, Belfast.
2.Charles Young, 1825-1908, died Melbourne, Australia;  m. Annabella Lyle, dau of Rev. James Lyle and Sarah Ledlie.
3.James Lyle Young, 1849-1929; m. 1884 Mary Stringer, d. 1918, Auckland, NZ.  James died
In Australia.
3.William John Young, 1850-1931; m. 1883 Anne McNicoll, dau of James McNicoll and Anne Miranda Smith Wass, 1858-1922.  He died in Australia.
3.Charles Daniel Young, 1852-1934; m. 1880 to Madoline Kerferd, 1859-1937, dau of Justice George Briscoe Kerferd, member of legislative assembly, and Ann Martindale.  Died Australia.
3.Harriet Young, 1855- 1927; born and died in Australia.
3.Alice Lyle Young, 1857-1932; m. 1886 Herbert Lionel Hudson, 1857-1940,  son of Henry Hudson and Margaret Ann Harland.
3.Marion Young, 1859-1926; m. William Wilson Killen, 1860-1939, son of Edward Killen and Isabella Wilson.  William was born at Glenville, Glenwherry, Ballymena, Co. Antrim.  He died in Australia.
3.Annie Lyle Young, 1860-1915; m. 1891 Edward Killen, son of Edward  Killen and Isabella Wilson.
He was born Glenwherry, Ballymena;  died Burwood, Australia.
3.Elizabeth Lyle Young, 1862-1939;  m. Dr. Godfrey Howitt, 1865-1915, son of William Godfrey Howitt and  Sarah Agnes McCrea;  he died Australia.
3.Violet Young, 1864-1866.
3.Robert Edward Young, 1865-1937; m. 1890 Beatrice McNicoll, 1865-1947,  dau of James McNicoll and Anne Miranda Smith Wass; died Australia.
3.Evaleen Dora Lyle Young, b. 1870; m. 1896 William Harland Hudson, 1856-1915, son of Henry Hudson and Margaret Ann Harland.
2.William John Young, 1811-1818.
2.Margaret Young, 1813-1903; m. 1836 to James Bryce, 1806-1877, son of Rev. James Bryce and Catherine Annan.
2.Elizabeth Young, b. 1814; m. 1848  Rev. John Lyle, d. 1885, son of Rev. James Lyle and Sarah Ledlie.  He died USA.
2.Mary Young, 1817-1834.
2.Jane Young, 1820-1846; m. 1846 John Anderson, JP, son of Robert Anderson and Elizabeth Caldwell.
2.William John Young, 1821-1861; died Australia.
2.Rt. Hon. Robert Young, CE, JP. 1822-1917; m. 1849  Sarah Boyd Magill,  1825-1870, dau of Rev. Robert Magill and Anne Jane Skelton.
2.Harriet Young, 1827-1845.
2.Daniel Young, 1830-1859, died Australia.









 


 

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1.Thomas Henry Ismay, b. 1837, Cumberland, son of shipbuilder Joseph Ismay.  Thomas m. 1859 Margaret Bruce, dau  of Luke Bruce of Liverpool.  Thomas died in 1899.

2.Joseph Bruce Ismay b. 1862 near Liverpool;  m. 1888 Julia Florence Schieffelin, dau of George Richard Schieffelin, 1836-1910, of New York.
3.Thomas Bruce Ismay
3.George Bruce Ismay, Capt., KIA, 1943
3.Margaret Ismay, m. Brig. Gen. George Ronald Hamilton-Cheape
3.Evelyn Ismay m. Basil Sanderson, son of Harold Sanderson.

2.C. B. Ismay m. a Miss Schieffelin, sister of Joseph's wife.

2.James Hainsworth Ismay m. ?

3.Olive Moreton Ismay m. 1928 Ralph Richard Abel Smith, son of Lt. Col. Wifrid Abel Smith and the Hon. Violet Somerset, dau of Richard, Lord Raglan and Mary Farquhar, dau of Sir Walter Farquhar.

3.Viola Bruce Ismay m. 1930 Robert Macaulay Fanshawe, divorced later.




 

1930--Robert Macaulay Fanshawe, 2nd son of Lt. Gen. Sir E. A. Fanshawe of Rothmore, Naas, Co. Kildare, married Viola Bruce Ismay, dau of the late
J. H. Ismay of Iwerne Minister, Blandford;  she was given away by her brother-in-law, Capt. Noel Livingstone Learmonth;  bridesmaids were Pamela Ismay and Margaret Livingstone Learmonth;  Richard Fanshawe was best man to his brother.
Trainbearers were Hew Fanshawe, Jane Woodroffe and Gee Davenport.
Among those present at the wedding were,
Capt. Fanshawe
Mrs Bower Ismay
Miss Del Ismay
Miss Livingstone Learmonth
Mrs and Miss Phillips
Mrs Thomas Ismay
Mr and Mrs Geoffrey Drage
Ismay Drage
Mrs Charles Drage
Miss Macdonald Moreton
Miss Parsons
Lady de Robeck and Baron de Robeck
Lady Victoria de Trafford
Lady Ernest St. Maur
Maj. Sir Eric and Lady Bonham
Maj Sir Frederick and Lady Carden
The Hon. Mrs Wilfrid Abel Smith
the Hon. Mrs Bertram Bell
Miss Southam
Brigadier de Burgh
Lady Mulleneux Grayson
Mrs Ronald Mackenzie
Miss Baseley
Mr R. Farquhar. and many others.


1974--Dec. 14, death of Lt. Col. Robert Macaulay Fanshawe, husband of Mary, he and Viola had divorced, father of Mary Rose.
 



 
1862, John Carlisle m. Mary Ann Pirrie

1869, William Pirrie m. Sarah Ann Culbert

1,James Pirrie, merchant, Comber
2.Lizzie Pirrie, m. 1870 Thomas Andrews, flax spinner, son of ?John? Andrews, merchant
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1.William Pirrie, merchant of Holywood, Co. Down
2.Eliza Morrison Pirrie m. 1870 Robert Megaw, merchant, son of William Megaw, Gent. of Holywood, Down
2.Florence Helen Pirrie m. 1881 Omar Collingwood Nelson, solicitor, son of the Rev. Samuel Nelson.

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1.James Alexander Pirrie, merchant
2.William James Pirrie, shipbuilder, m. 1879 Margaret Montgomery Carlisle, dau of John Carlisle, teacher.
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1.John M. Pirrie
2.Jane, Jennie, Pirrie m. 1884 James Napier Hamilton, architect, son of Dr. William H. Hamilton, Gent.
Witnesses were ?Ellen? Pirrie and Edmund Hardy Hamilton
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1.John Barbour Pirrie, Gent.
2.Doris Barbour Pirrie m. 1910 the Rev. William Herbert Bradley, son of the Rev. William Hanna Bradley.

Death
1858, William Pirrie
1873, death of Isabella Pirrie
1873, death of John Miller Pirrie
1883, death of Washington Pirrie
1894, death of Charles John Pirrie
1895, death of Eliza Pirrie
1905, death of Maria Pirrie



John Barbour Pirrie, Esq., managing director of Barn Mills;  cousin of Lord Pirrie of Belfast.


 
1.James Alexander Pirrie m. Eliza Montgomery
2.William James Pirrie, b. 1847 in Quebec, Canada;  entered Harland and Wolff in 1862;  partner by 1874;  friend of Thomas
Henry Ismay and his son, Joseph Bruce Ismay, the chairmen of White Star Line; married to Margaret Montgomery Carlisle.

Lord Mayor of Belfast, 1896-1897; Baron Pirrie, 1906; viscount, 1921; died at sea on June 6, 1924 while on a business tour of South America;


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Carlisle family:
1.John Carlisle, headmaster of Royal Academy m. ?
2.Rt. Hon. Alexander Montgomery Carlisle, b. 1854-1926 in Ballymena, Co. Antrim;  chairman of board of directors of Harland and Wolff;  m. Edith Wooster, dau of J. B. Wooster of San Francisco;  they had one son and two daus.
2.Margaret Montgomery Carlisle m. 1879 William Pierre



 
At archive.org   Distinguished Families in America

1.William Fenwick Beekman b. 1809m. 1841 Catharine Alexander Neilson
2.William Bedlow Beekman m. 1. Alice Keller; m. 2. 1878 Katharine Morris Ogden Parker, dau of the Hon. Cortlandt Parker  of New Jersey with issue.
2.Dr. John Neilson Beekman, b. 1843 m. Annie L. Dawson.
2.Hon. Henry Rutgers Beekman,b. 1845, justice of the supreme court of New York; m. Isabella Lawrence
2.James H. Beekman, 1848-1902, m. Florence Delaplaine; James was a stock broker in NY.
2.Herman Beekman
2.Fannie Beekman m. Robert Adrain

About James H. Beekman--
Mrs. Amsinck was m. 1. to James H. Beekman, and then she married Gustav Amsinck, a banker;  she then m. 3. Mr. Hamilton Fish;  she was aunt of Mrs J. Bruce Ismay--

Mrs. Florence Delaplaine Beekman Amsinck, sister of Mrs George R. Schieffelin

Mr. ? Fish, son of Hamilton Fish, who was Secretary of the Treasury under Grant;  the son was Asst. Sec. of the Treasury under Roosevelt and brother of
Stuyvesant Fish;  He m. 1. Emily Mann and had Mrs John Cutler of Boston and Miss Rosalind Fish.

Who:  Hamilton Fish, Jr.
Janett Helena Fish m. William Lawrence Breese
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Thomas Henry Ismay, b. 1837, eldest son of shipbuilder, Joseph Ismay;  Thomas married Margaret Bruce in 1859 and they had 3 sons and 4 daus;  he served as chairman of the White Star line;   died in 1899;  his eldest son, Joseph Bruce Ismay was born in 1862 and married Julia Florence Schieffelin in 1888.


0.Richard L. Schieffelin, 1801-1889, youngest son of Jacob; m. 1833 Margaret Helen McKay, dau of Capt. George Knox McKay
1.George Richard Schieffelin, 1836-1910, youngest son of Richard Schieffelin, NY attorney, and Margaret McKay;  in 1866 he married Julia M. Delplaine, granddau of a wealthy shipping merchant;  her father, Issac, was a congressman;  they had four daus and one son:
2.Julia m. J. Ismay
2.Margaret m. Henry Trover
2.Matilda
2.Sarah
2.George m. Louise Scribner
note that one of these daughters was married to C. B. Ismay, but she used the name of Constance.
1.Sarah Schieffelin m. Rev. Cuthbert Collingwood Barclay
1.Margaret m.1. William Irving Graham; m.2. Alexander Chisols

1928--marriage of Ralph Richard Abel Smith, son of Lt. Col. Wilfrid Robert Abel Smith and the Hon. Violet Elizabeth Katharine Somerset, to Olive Moreton Ismay, dau of James Hainsworth Ismay.

1.Joseph Bruce Ismay and Julia Florence
2.Thomas Bruce Ismay
2.George Bruce Ismay, Capt. KIA, 1943; m. Dorothy
2.Margaret m. Brig. Gen. George Ronald Hamilton Cheape
2.Evelyn m. Basis Sanderson, son of Harold.
?2?James Hainsworth Ismay


1900--C. B. Ismay m. Constance Schieffelin, her sister's brother-in-law?
C. B. Ismay was the son of the late Thomas Henry Ismay, founder of the White Star Line.

Constance Schieffelin was the daughter of George Schieffelin and Miss Delpaine;  she was the niece of Mrs James Beekman Amsinck Fish
Costance's sister, Florence, married J. Bruce Ismay.  Another sister married Henry G. Trevor/Trever

Joseph Bruce Ismay was b. 1862, son of Thomas Henry Ismay;  Joseph m. 1888 to Julia Florence Schieffelin;  Ismay was chairman and managing director of the White Star line.  In 1911 their dau, Margaret Ismay, m. Capt. Ronald Cheape.


Harold Arthur Sanderson, died 1932, aged 73;  he was head of the White Star line;  son of Richard Sanderson of London;  he married in 1885 to Maud Blood of New York, who died in 1927;  son Basil Sanderson m. Evelyn Ismay, dau of Joseph Bruce Ismay;  Richard Sanderson; and dau, Mrs Lee Ballard.

Harold's brothers were Richard S. C. Sanderson of Balwin Locamotive Works; Percy Sanderson of Vancouver;  Lloyd Bowen Sanderson of the Royal Mail and Pacific Steam Navigation Companies and Oswald Sanderson of Leeds, England, who was the managing director of Ellerman's Wilson Line.