Uniform help please

[ALAMO2008]

Wow Brilliant
Thanks for that Knowledge

[Gwil]

Looks like the newspaper article I quoted has a typo i.e.. Thomas instead of Robert because the North Wales Weekly News of 10 1 1913 reports the death of Robert Williams, 1 Bell Cottages.

[ShaunJ]

Absent Voters for Penmaenmawr has a Thomas John Williams, Castle Hall as Pte 32107 in 19th Bn, Welsh Regiment.

The cap badge is definitely not Welsh Regiment. 

321017 was awarded the 1914-15 Star so the age doesn't fit either.

[BarbW]

He was born on 22 February 1898 to  Robert John Williams and Ellen Owens  GRO Birth Index March Quarter 1898 Bangor Vol 11b page 446 Mother's Maiden Name = Owens

He was probably Conscripted after his 18th Birthday in February 1916 and he would not have had a Choice which Regt he wanted to Enlist to into

On the assumption he Enlisted under Thomas John rather than just Thomas there are a few under,Thomas John
I have reviewed them to eliminate those that in pre 1916 and found one in the RE that seems a good one if someone thinks his Cao Badge could fit that and I am trying to get his address in this case

Yes that is him

[BarbW]

Looks like the newspaper article I quoted has a typo i.e.. Thomas instead of Robert because the North Wales Weekly News of 10 1 1913 reports the death of Robert Williams, 1 Bell Cottages.

Thank you so much for this.

[Gwil]

The North Wales Weekly News Thu, 22 Jul 1915 ·Page 6 has a list of Penmaenmawr men serving. It includes Thomas J Williams, Castle Hall, 17th RWF.

17th RWF are linked to Llandudno thus:
17th (Service) Battalion (2nd North Wales)
Formed at Llandudno on 2 February 1915 and came under orders of 128th Brigade, 43rd Division.
Record same as 15th Bn but not disbanded in 1918.

Given the Absent Voters shows him as a Welsh Regiment man it appears he has either transferred to the Welsh Regiment at some point  before December 1915 [which is when he went to France]
OR
He was discharged from RWF having been found to be under age and has then enlisted in the Welsh Regiment making himself older to do so.

[Gwil]

The North Wales Weekly News Thu, 15 Nov 1923 ·Page 10

[BarbW]

Thank you so much.  My dad and his twin brother were born in Grey Rock Street, Liverpool in 1925 and Ethel was my grandmother.

According to Google Castle Rock is known locally as Castell Mawr.

[ALAMO2008]

The North Wales Weekly News Thu, 22 Jul 1915 ·Page 6 has a list of Penmaenmawr men serving. It includes Thomas J Williams, Castle Hall, 17th RWF.

17th RWF are linked to Llandudno thus:
17th (Service) Battalion (2nd North Wales)
Formed at Llandudno on 2 February 1915 and came under orders of 128th Brigade, 43rd Division.
Record same as 15th Bn but not disbanded in 1918.

Given the Absent Voters shows him as a Welsh Regiment man it appears he has either transferred to the Welsh Regiment at some point  before December 1915 [which is when he went to France]
OR
He was discharged from RWF having been found to be under age and has then enlisted in the Welsh Regiment making himself older to do so.

Great Theory

32107 obviously Enlisted Spring 1915 into the 19th Welch Reg presumed over age
Went Overseas December 1915 with them
Discharged January 1919 Class Z as the War hadn't ended yet.