Uniform help please

[BarbW]

This is my grandfather Thomas John Williams born in Bethesda, Wales in 1898.  He was killed in a road accident in 1943 whilst in the RAF.  I have all available records for WW2 but nothing for WW1.

I did submit the same photo years ago but it was a very poor copy of a copy and nobody was able to help due to the quality.   A relative in Wales sent me this recently. It's an original postcard with a studio name in Llandudno.  Can anybody please assist.

[BarbW]

I should add I am only assuming the uniform is WW1 because of the legwear, there is nobody left to ask if he even was a serviceman.

[tonepad]

The cap badge could be the Royal Welsh Fusiliers, some of their battalions were associated with Llandudno in WW1.

https://www.britishmilitarybadges.co.uk/products/ww1-royal-welsh-fusiliers-regiment-rwf-cap-badge---first-pattern-27.html

Tony

[Gwil]

Do you have a WW1  address for him.

I have at least two Thomas John Williams in RWF for the area and quite a few straight Thomas Williams.

[BarbW]

In the 1911 census he was living with his family at 1 Bell Cottages, Penmaenmawr then nothing until he marries my grandmother in Liverpool in 1921.

[ALAMO2008]

He was born on 22 February 1898 to  Robert John Williams and Ellen Owens  GRO Birth Index March Quarter 1898 Bangor Vol 11b page 446 Mother's Maiden Name = Owens

He was probably Conscripted after his 18th Birthday in February 1916 and he would not have had a Choice which Regt he wanted to Enlist to into

On the assumption he Enlisted under Thomas John rather than just Thomas there are a few under,Thomas John

[Gwil]

In the 1911 census he was living with his family at 1 Bell Cottages, Penmaenmawr then nothing until he marries my grandmother in Liverpool in 1921.

Seen the 1911 census now and his CWGC entry. Both stating his father to be Robert Williams and mother to be Ellen Williams.

Curiously the North Wales Chronicle dated 15 11 1918 has, under Penmaenmawr
" The death also took place on Monday of Mrs Ellen Willams. Castle Hall, widow of the late Mr Thomas Williams, 1, Bell Cottages."
Absent Voters for Penmaenmawr has a Thomas John Williams, Castle Hall as Pte 32107 in 19th Bn, Welsh Regiment.

Does this Castle Hall or the deaths of his parents feature in your research?

[ALAMO2008]

Thomas John being under 21 would not have been allowed to Vote then

[Gwil]

Thomas John being under 21 would not have been allowed to Vote then

Key paragraphs
The Representation of the People Act, 1918, makes special provision for the registration of members of the Military Forces. Every officer and man who is a British subject and will have attained the age of 19 years of age on 15 April 1918 is entitled to be registered as a Parliamentary elector for any constituency in which he would have been residing but for his service in the Army. A statement made by him in the “prescribed” form and verified in the “prescribed” manner that he would have had the necessary qualification for being registered but for his service, is to be treated as sufficient proof of qualification if there is no evidence to the contrary. …

From
https://www.longlongtrail.co.uk/soldiers/a-soldiers-life-1914-1918/the-registration-of-military-voters/