Derbyshire or Lincolnshire? *COMPLETED THANKS*

[lydiaann]

I wonder if some kind soul would be good enough to look up a location for me, please, as I don't have access to the 1921 census.  I am trying to complete the timeline of my grandfather and am not sure whether he had already moved from Lincolnshire. He was in Ticknall as Gamekeeper to Sir Francis Burdett in 1912 but in Kirkstead, Woodhall Spa in 1913 as gamekeeper to Rev. C. T. Moore (his cottage is still occupied but much altered since then!) After 1913, there don't seem to be any Directory entries until 1925 when he is back in Derbyshire, this time in Tissington, Gamekeeper to H. J. Wigram.

Andrew Craven, b. 1881 Banchory-Ternan, Kincardineshire, Gamekeeper
family:
Lydia Craven (nee Houghton), b. 1881 Melbourne, Derbyshire.
Andrew Harris Craven, b. 1905 Foremark, Derbyshire
Dorothy Eleanor Craven, b. 1906 Milton, Derbyshire (reg. in Burton)
Gwendoline Mary Craven, b. 1910 Milton, Derbyshire (re. in Burton)

It is possible that Andrew Harris may have been at the same address as he, too, became a Gamekeeper. I believe Dorothy Eleanor (my mum) may already have left home to become an apprentice with Affleck & Brown in Manchester, but Gwendoline Mary would have been with her parents.

Andrew and Lydia retired in 1947, moving once again to Woodhall Spa - where my mum brought me and my 2 older brothers to live with them when my father died in 1951.  As I said, this one move should complete the circle of my grandad's life and I would be eternally grateful if I could just have even the village where he was in 1921. 

Thanks in hope, Chatters.

[BumbleB]

1921 - Isley Walton, Derbyshire - Andrew = Gamekeeper to Mr. Shields of Isley Walton., wife Lydia plus 3 children.

[lydiaann]

Wow, that was quick! Thank you so much for that, Bumble.  That came out of left field!  I had become so used to talk of Derbyshire, but it was always Tissington, Foremark, Kedleston, Ashby-de-la-Zouche,Ticknall, etc. - but never this.  I'm guessing he - and also probably Andrew Jr - was on the estate at Donington Hall.  However, it shows that I am correct in thinking he moved in 1920 as my mum had said they lived in Woodhall Spa for 8 years.

Andrew's - and thus Lydia's - life was that of a 'wanderer', moving from estate to estate.  I know that while he was at Foremark Hall (1910s) he also joined the shoots at Calke and Kedleston.  (Presumably, the owners of these estates 'shared' their keepers to act as beaters/assistants at the major shoots.)  And I know that he was highly regarded, according to my grandmother - citing gifts given, care packages if the children were ill, etc. so it wasn't a case of being thrown out regularly!!

So, you have joined up my dots.  Thank you so much, I am very grateful for that.

lydiaann

[BumbleB]

Address for Mr Shields just says Isley Walton, but he too came from Ayrshire - Stewarton.

[Comberton]

I know you have marked this completed but I wondered if you had seen this item. It mentions 1920.


1921  census
You can buy the image from FindMyPast for £3.50, and search for free without a subscription. Your mum does have an occupation and employer.
This is the employer Mr Shields
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/265459720/john-gillies-shields

[lydiaann]

As I had already 'completed' this topic, I didn't return to it until today while searching for another Craven item.  Comberton, thank you so much for that.  I remember my grandfather's funeral (I am the Miss J. Taylor in the article) - it was a beautiful day and I had turned 20 just 17 days prior to his death.  As the household had consisted of just granddad, my mum and me (big brothers were away from home, one in London and one in the Army in Hong Kong), we were 'lost' for quite a while! So many memories...and I am pleased to say all happy!