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Ernest Wilfred Owen Military records Royal Field Artillery
« on: Friday 16 August 24 16:05 BST (UK) »
Hi all , seeking military information on Ernest Wilfred Owen b1892 Trowbridge moved to Trealaw with his family in 1911 census . Enlisted into Royal Field Artillery 14 Dec 1915 aged 23.Many Thanks Scott Wood
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Re: Ernest Wilfred Owen Military records Royal Field Artillery
« Reply #1 on: Friday 16 August 24 16:16 BST (UK) »
His medal card with service numbers
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D4474959

FindMyPast have record card which links service number with enlistment date mentioned.

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Re: Ernest Wilfred Owen Military records Royal Field Artillery
« Reply #2 on: Friday 16 August 24 16:17 BST (UK) »
Have you looked for his service records?
But, please bear in mind that nearly 70% of these records were lost in a fire in WW2.

Medal Index Card - if he served abroad.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Ernest Wilfred Owen Military records Royal Field Artillery
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 August 24 18:20 BST (UK) »
A search for a service record on both Ancestry and Find My Past has failed to find anything. Unless he continued to serve after WW1, this would mean that his record was destroyed during the WW2 bombing of London.


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Re: Ernest Wilfred Owen Military records Royal Field Artillery
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 August 24 19:54 BST (UK) »
Thank you I wondered sadly that  was the reason ,
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Re: Ernest Wilfred Owen Military records Royal Field Artillery
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 August 24 11:29 BST (UK) »
The only bit I can add is that he was a Territorial hence the 2 numbers for him.
In 1917 the TF were re-organised & issued with 6 digit numbers.
These were issued in batches & 940599 is in the batch issued to 283 & 293 Brigades
RFA.
283 (Howitzer) Bde. was 56th. Div. Artillery & 293 (Howitzer) Bde. was 58th. Div. Artillery.
The batch number starts at 940001 up to 945000.
His number is right at the start but I can't say how they were allocated to each Bde.
ie. if 283 had the first half of the batch.

He was in 283 Bde. as 293 didn't go overseas until 1917.
283 Bde. went overseas Oct. 1915 & your man went overseas in Dec. 1915.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
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Re: Ernest Wilfred Owen Military records Royal Field Artillery
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 18 August 24 16:06 BST (UK) »
His medal card with service numbers
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D4474959

FindMyPast have record card which links service number with enlistment date mentioned.

The medal roll for the above shows Ernest Wm Owen suggesting middle name of William.

FindMy Past artillery enlistments has 1012904 Ernest Owen b circa 1893 Trowbridge. He married an Emily Rachael Colley 23 8 20. Daughter Dorothy Joan 22 7 1922. When discharged 11 8 1934 his address was 16 Elm St, Cwm, Monmouthshire. His WW 1 service was as 80611.
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FROYALART%2F1012001-1013000%2F00154&parentid=GBM%2FROYALART%2F26547

Might he be your Ernest?

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Re: Ernest Wilfred Owen Military records Royal Field Artillery
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 18 August 24 16:40 BST (UK) »
Looks like we've got a mix of Ernest Owens.
The poster says he "attested" 14/12/15 which wasn't his attestation date
it was the date he went overseas according to the first Ernest Owen's
MIC.
Also they said he had middle name Wilfred.
The 2nd. Ernest looks a better fit.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Ernest Wilfred Owen Military records Royal Field Artillery
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 18 August 24 16:46 BST (UK) »
FindMy Past artillery enlistments has 1012904 Ernest Owen b circa 1893 Trowbridge. He married an Emily Rachael Colley 23 8 20. Daughter Dorothy Joan 22 7 1922. When discharged 11 8 1934 his address was 16 Elm St, Cwm, Monmouthshire.

Based on the above

Ernest W & Emily at this address in 1921. They appear together in 1939 Trowbridge, Wilts his dob 2.2.1892

Death

Name   Ernest Wilfred Owen
Register Type   Cremation
Death Date   17 Jun 1963
Burial or Cremation Date   21 Jun 1963
Burial or Cremation Place   Somerset, England

OWEN, ERNEST  WILFRID     mmn HARDING 
GRO Reference: 1892  M Quarter in MELKSHAM  Volume 05A  Page 123

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Emily Rachael Owen
2 Sep 1894
Oct 1991
Trowbridge
Wiltshire