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Re: Newcastle Emlyn - Thomas Family
« Reply #9 on: Friday 16 August 24 20:18 BST (UK) »
1891
Civil parish   Kilrhedyn
Town Capel Evan, Carmarthenshire

All b Cilrhedyn, Carmarthenshire, except father

John Davies   53   Head, wid, farmer, Penboyr, Carmarthenshire
William Davies 30 Son
Benjamin Davies 29 Son
Sarah Davies 26 Daughter
David Davies 25 Son
Thomas Davies 19 Son
John Davies 9 Son

Only marriage between census in area

Marriages Dec  Q 1898  - same page
Davies    Sarah        Newcastle E.    11b   52    
Thomas    Thomas        Newcastle E.    11b   52

You would really need to obtain marriage cert to confirm or throw out findings. There are many families with same names.
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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Newcastle Emlyn - Thomas Family
« Reply #10 on: Friday 16 August 24 20:25 BST (UK) »
1901 address is same as 1911, so same family. Not sure where Thomas is.

I think looking back on Hannah, she was not mother. Cannot find Sarah with same age or birthplace with her.
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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Newcastle Emlyn - Thomas Family
« Reply #11 on: Friday 16 August 24 20:59 BST (UK) »
Ah, thank you so much.

This is really helping to paint a picture!

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Re: Newcastle Emlyn - Thomas Family
« Reply #12 on: Friday 16 August 24 22:49 BST (UK) »
Alice Foan/Hollis was actually born Evans - Foan was her first husband, married in 1912


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Re: Newcastle Emlyn - Thomas Family
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 17 August 24 00:05 BST (UK) »
Good spot. There is this baptism that matches the 1914 marriage

Name   Charles Thomas William Foan
Baptism Age   0
Record Type   Baptism
Birth Date   30 Oct 1915
Baptism Date   19 Nov 1915
Baptism Place   Cardiff St Mary, Glamorganshire, Wales
Father   Charles Foan
Mother   Alice Mary Maud Foan

Another child born 1917
FOAN, MIMA  FRANCES  mmn   EVANS 
GRO Reference: 1917  D Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 639

Name   Mima Frances Foan
Baptism Age   0
Birth Date   23 Sep 1917
Baptism Date   12 Oct 1917
Baptism Place   Cardiff St Mary, Glamorganshire, Wales
Father   Charles Foan
Mother   Alice Foan

Likely death for husband
Charles Foan
Death Age   37 (b1885)
Registration Date   June Q 1922
Registration district   Cardiff
Inferred County   Glamorganshire
Volume   11a Page   379

Remarriage in Dec Q 1922 for Thomas Hollis to Alice MM Foan

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Newcastle Emlyn - Thomas Family
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 17 August 24 00:06 BST (UK) »
Bapt for Alice

Name   Alice Mary Maude Evans
Baptism Age   0
Record Type   Baptism
Birth Date   15 Feb 1892
Baptism Date   23 Mar 1892
Baptism Place   Canton, Glamorganshire, Wales
Father   John Harvard Evans, inspector
Mother   Hannah Evans

EVANS, ALICE  MARY MAUD    mmn LEWIS 
GRO Reference: 1892  M Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 412

Your uncle was spot on with details for Alice for age & marriages. Wonder if the connection was Martha Bateman nee Lewis?
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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Newcastle Emlyn - Thomas Family
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 17 August 24 00:13 BST (UK) »
Burial for father - address is union workhouse

Name   John Havard Evans
Death Age   54
Record Type   Burial
Birth Date   1845
Death Date   abt 1899
Burial Date   3 Mar 1899
Burial Place   Cardiff St John, Glamorganshire, Wales
Page number   64

EVANS, JOHN  HAVARD  mmn   PHILIPPS 
GRO Reference: 1843  S Quarter in CRICKHOWELL  Volume 26  Page 285

1901/1911 family in household of Michael Finnigan with mother in Cardiff as stepchildren

Possible - Marriages Sep Q 1899 -  same page
EVANS    Hannah        Cardiff    11a   633    
FINNEGAN    Michael        Cardiff    11a   633    
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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Newcastle Emlyn - Thomas Family
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 17 August 24 00:34 BST (UK) »
1891 for birthplaces before birth of Alice.

Civil parish   Canton, Cardiff
John H Evan 44 Head, weight inspector, Crickhowell, Breconshire
Hannah Evan 34   Wife,  Little Newcastle, Pembroke
James H F Evan 16 Son, Haverfordwest, Pembroke (looks likely to be son of Hannah)
Hannah E G Evan 4 Daughter, Grange town, Cardiff
John H Evans 2 Son "

Not sure if this is your chap, but matches with birth reg above.

Name   John Havard Evans
Birth Date   19 Jun 1843
Enrolment Date   12 Jun 1862
Rank   Clerk
URL   http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D7612688
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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Newcastle Emlyn - Thomas Family
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 17 August 24 01:50 BST (UK) »
Possible 1921 census (free index) mistranscribed. Unable to view record to check

Alice Joan b1893 Cardiff, Glamorganshire living Cardiff

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland