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Edward John Pilcher - why no GRO records ?
« on: Wednesday 14 August 24 15:35 BST (UK) »
According to the Probate Index, this person died 6/7/1941 in London and that is that. Cannot see a GRO record of this death - or any other record apart from electoral rolls, including 1939 Register. He died Bayswater and there is a John Edward Pilcher who dies Paddington  Sept quarter 1941 aged 79. Could this be him though he is Edward on electoral rolls ?

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Re: Edward John Pilcher - why no GRO records ?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 14 August 24 15:53 BST (UK) »
Death notice here.

NOTE: The Cleveland Nursing Home was located in Bayswater.

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Re: Edward John Pilcher - why no GRO records ?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 14 August 24 16:14 BST (UK) »
Possibility for birth and census records below. He's a Correspondence Clerk in most of the census records.

Born 1862 Aldershot
Parents Edward and Elizabeth

1881 census - Shoreditch
1891 census - Shoreditch
1894 Marriage - St George Hanover Square
1901 census - unknown
1911 census - St George Hanover Square
1921 census - St George Hanover Square

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Re: Edward John Pilcher - why no GRO records ?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 14 August 24 17:02 BST (UK) »
Not that it matter, 1901


RG13 Piece number 87 Folio 155 Page 33

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Re: Edward John Pilcher - why no GRO records ?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 14 August 24 17:47 BST (UK) »
Looking at the Kensington address on the 1939 register, there is a John E PILCHER, widower, resident with an 1862 DoB.  That would fit with the death you've found.  It seems he may have gone by both forenames.

I've not checked out the Bayswater address, but if not a hospital or infirmary or similar, it may be the address of a son or dau.

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Re: Edward John Pilcher - why no GRO records ?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 14 August 24 20:03 BST (UK) »
Parents
Marriages Sep Q 1861 - same page
EAST    Elizabeth        Shoreditch    1c   450    
PILCHER    Edward        Shoreditch.    1c 450

Birth - PILCHER, EDWARD  JOHN  mmn   EAST 
GRO Reference: 1862  S Quarter in FARNHAM  Volume 02A  Page 60

Marriage online transcribed as Pitcher, image is Pilcher.
Edward John Pitcher
Marriage Age   31
Birth Date   abt 1863
Marriage Date   22 Apr 1894
Marriage Place   St John the Evangelist, Smith Square, London, Westminster, England
Father   Edward Pitcher
Spouse   Catherine Frances Stevens
Witness - Alfred Humphreys (same name as on probate, I think)

1939 register he is down as John E with a July birth month. I would think the 1941 death is correct, it could, as mentioned, be prefered interchangeable or whoever registered the death mixed his names.

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Re: Edward John Pilcher - why no GRO records ?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 15 August 24 07:44 BST (UK) »
His death seems to have been registered as John E. Pilcher, age 79, Paddington, 1a, 3
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