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Re: Land Tax Records for Stratton Strawless Parish
« Reply #9 on: Monday 12 August 24 00:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks again Ashtone.

I'm actually well along with my Harbord research and have the Will you mentioned. Now I am just tying up some loose ends and wondered if the land tax records might elucidate anything about the descendants of William Harbord, who made the Will in 1739 (the 1744 record was when the Will was proved).
Willy, Willey, Gifford, England, Fry, Pittard (all in Kingsbury Episcopi Parish, Somerset); Forster (Warkworth, Northumberland; and Isle of Thanet, Kent); & Cartwright & Hancock (Birkenhead, Cheshire)

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Re: Land Tax Records for Stratton Strawless Parish
« Reply #10 on: Monday 12 August 24 15:56 BST (UK) »
I also have Harbord/Herbert ancestors from Norwich but a possible connection to the Stratton Stawless area. The furthest I have got back is a William Harbord born c1670.

I was recently researching a likely distant relative of mine called Benjamin Harbord born 1775 in Coltishall and died Gt Yarmouth in 1856, who was the grandson of the William Harbord who died in 1739 in Stratton Strawless.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Land Tax Records for Stratton Strawless Parish
« Reply #11 on: Monday 12 August 24 16:37 BST (UK) »
I believe your Benjamin Harbord was a grandson of the William Harbord (who made his last Will in Stratton Strawless in 1739 (the Will was proved in 1744)) via William's first wife Martha, and their son John. The Will refers to John and the then living children of William by both Martha and a second wife named Elizabeth. The Harbord's I am following at this time are from William and Elizabeth.

I have tried to send you a PM.
Willy, Willey, Gifford, England, Fry, Pittard (all in Kingsbury Episcopi Parish, Somerset); Forster (Warkworth, Northumberland; and Isle of Thanet, Kent); & Cartwright & Hancock (Birkenhead, Cheshire)

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Re: Land Tax Records for Stratton Strawless Parish
« Reply #12 on: Monday 12 August 24 20:08 BST (UK) »
The NRO also have the 1744 will of a William Harbord of Stratton Strawless --

https://nrocatalogue.norfolk.gov.uk/index.php/harbord-william-of-stratton-strawless

Here it is, so we can all enjoy it!
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C39F-27TS-K

Does Kamante have the Harbord entries from the court rolls of the Manor of Hevingham Catts?
Too heavy going for me!
1 Dec 1783
Wm Harbord Grt Grandson & Heir of Elizth Harbord
(starts bottom right)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6P63-T48

Mention of a general court baron, 15 Oct 1739
Harbord William & his wife Elizabeth
on the surrd of Thomas Hall
(starts bottom left)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6P63-KV8

Who knows, there may be more. Indexes at the back of the volumes.
Exciting stuff!



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Re: Land Tax Records for Stratton Strawless Parish
« Reply #13 on: Monday 12 August 24 21:09 BST (UK) »
Thank you jonw65.

Yes, I have the Hevingham Manor Court records you mentioned. They are marvelous and provided a research breakthrough for me, being the first records I had seen connecting William and Elizabeth Harbord of Stratton Strawless to the great grandson William Harbord (1779 Rotherhithe, Surrey-1853 Liverpool). Several pedigrees show this connection, without proof.
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Re: Land Tax Records for Stratton Strawless Parish
« Reply #14 on: Monday 12 August 24 21:53 BST (UK) »
Hi
Ah, well done. Those manorial records are indeed amazing.
FamilySearch does have
Land tax returns for the hundred of South Erpingham, 1767-1832, over three microfilms
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/435260

However the reality may be that there is almost nothing before 1800 :(
For Stratton Strawless land tax in 1800 see here
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/435260

For more you have to wade through the films
John

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Re: Land Tax Records for Stratton Strawless Parish
« Reply #15 on: Monday 12 August 24 22:04 BST (UK) »
Thanks jonw65. Never thought of searching for South Erpington Hundred. In Somerset, I am used to searching for a parish and finding the land tax records. I appreciate your tip. Too bad, South Erpington does not have much of anything prior to 1800.
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Re: Land Tax Records for Stratton Strawless Parish
« Reply #16 on: Monday 12 August 24 22:56 BST (UK) »
I believe your Benjamin Harbord was a grandson of the William Harbord (who made his last Will in Stratton Strawless in 1739 (the Will was proved in 1744)) via William's first wife Martha, and their son John. The Will refers to John and the then living children of William by both Martha and a second wife named Elizabeth. The Harbord's I am following at this time are from William and Elizabeth.

I have tried to send you a PM.

Thanks I received the PM. The 1744 will (WH died in 1739) is quite good. Not the same man who was my William Harbord but my one was wed to Sarah (unknown maiden surname) and had a son called Benjamin in 1703 in Norwich and likely a son George in 1708 in Aylsham, near Stratton Strawless. As we know the further back I could get the harder it is to find records. It is still good to have got back to someone born about 1670.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain