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Thomas Breeding
« on: Wednesday 07 August 24 23:49 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I have an ancestor called Thomas Breeding(Breeden) who married Elizabeth Short in Cuckfield 1770. He died in 1828 in Balcombe born around 1750. I thought that he might be Thomas Breeding born 1750 Cuckfield son of Nicholas and Sarah, but looking at the records there is no baptism. I think i found information elsewhere in the past and did not look further into it. Can someone help to find the baptism and right parents of Thomas?

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Re: Thomas Breeding
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 August 24 11:16 BST (UK) »
I note the marriage in 1770 but quite a gap before the children were baptised, were there any others?

Balcombe, Sussex Baptisms – Thomas & Elizabeth

James Breeding 27 Feb 1780  
Henry Bredon 27 Oct 1781
William Breeden 14 Nov 1784
Joseph Breden 1 Nov 1789
Mary Breden 23 Jun 1793

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Re: Thomas Breeding
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 August 24 11:21 BST (UK) »
As Thomas/Elizabeth don't seem to name children Nicholas/Sarah I would be sceptical those were his Parents.

I see they have children James/Henry/William/Joseph/Mary from 1780.
Must be others born elsewhere?



Mary BASHFORD
Nicholaus BREDEN married 17 Apr 1768 Cuckfield.

The had a Thomas but bapt 11 Sep 1768 so too young to marry 1770.

Elizabeth SHORT was bapt 28 Jul 1751 Holy Trinity, Cuckfield to WILLIAM/SARAH
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Re: Thomas Breeding
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 08 August 24 11:24 BST (UK) »
Ok found CHARLES Breeding 30 May 1773, CRAVEN Breathing 16 Feb 1776
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Re: Thomas Breeding
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 08 August 24 11:26 BST (UK) »
There is one tree on Ancestry which suggest this was Thomas, I’m not so sure?
(Shown as 1746 Julian Calendar)

Thomas Breeding
Birth Date 22 Feb About 1747
Baptism Date 22 Mar 1747 Reigate, St Mary, Surrey
Father Jacob Breeding
Mother Ann Breeding

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Re: Thomas Breeding
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 08 August 24 11:31 BST (UK) »
ELIZABETH Breeding 10 Nov 1771

So no Nicholas bapt.

Saw that bapt also to Jacob/Ann
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Re: Thomas Breeding
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 August 24 11:42 BST (UK) »
Elisabeth Short, maybe.
Baptism    28 Jul 1751 Cuckfield, Sussex, England
Father   William Short
Mother   Sarah Short

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Re: Thomas Breeding
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 August 24 16:10 BST (UK) »
East Grinstead removal order, 1 Sep 1777
Thomas Breden, married, parish Balcombe
children Elizabeth, 6, Charles, 5, and Craven,1y 6m
https://www.sussexrecordsociety.org/dbs/pl/getrecord/12931/   

Breden entries in the Database of Poor Law records for West Sussex
https://www.sussexrecordsociety.org/dbs/pl/search/?srs_search[surname]=BREDEN

The "boarding agreements" are the poor children placed out to service by the Balcombe parish officers
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-D1QG-WJ

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Re: Thomas Breeding
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 August 24 23:05 BST (UK) »
Thank you all again for your time and research. Yes I have Elizabeth Short b. 1751 Cuckfield too but her husband is still a mystery and the name Breeduing/Breeden is not very common.

The poor family:( I think it was not an easy time for them while growing up. I did not know that these records exist and will look more into it because i have a lot of ancestors from Sussex. You never know the circumstances back then, maybe Thomas was adopted or lived with a family called Breeden and took their last name or was born with a different surname or born illegitimate and later took his biological or stepdads name. The name of his child "Craven" could also be surname that runs in his or his wifes family ???
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