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Offline Andrew Tarr

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Re: Ethnicity
« Reply #9 on: Monday 05 August 24 12:11 BST (UK) »
Also no such thing as "Irish DNA" it is a DNA found through centuries of immigration to Ireland from the Normans, Vikings, Celts, Brits, Scottish, French Huguenot (in cork areas) and more. Same for England, Wales and Scotland.
Technically correct, of course, but An*estry's methods seem to be able to distinguish Irish from the rest of the UK.  I have a 90% clear picture of my 32 immediate antecedents, one being a great-grandmother from southern Ireland, so that is 1 in 8 = 12.5%.  My DNA return stated 12% Irish, which may be coincidental but I prefer to assume it is fairly accurate.  The remainder is rather unspecific UK 'mainland', which is also reasonably accurate  :D
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Re: Ethnicity
« Reply #10 on: Monday 05 August 24 12:19 BST (UK) »
Also no such thing as "Irish DNA" it is a DNA found through centuries of immigration to Ireland from the Normans, Vikings, Celts, Brits, Scottish, French Huguenot (in cork areas) and more. Same for England, Wales and Scotland.
Whilst it is true Ireland has had different waves of emigration, what the Irish DNA Atlas showed was that the population was remarkable stable within each area over a significantly long period of time, which differentiates it from England to quite some extent. So each area has a quite accurately detectable mix of DNA, which allows DNA tests such as Ancestry or 23andme to fairly accurately narrow down your ancestry to the correct region within Ireland. The Atlas did initially suggest that the DNA impact of the Normans was less than thought, although personally I think it is more complicated as what we think of as the Normans were people who were genetically speaking mostly of Breton, Frankish, Gaulish, with a bit of Saxon and Flemish ancestry and a little bit of Viking, which matches in fact what has been found in the DNA Atlas project.

https://www.rcsi.com/dublin/research-and-innovation/research/resources-and-facilities/biobank/irish-dna-atlas

https://familyhistory.ie/newtheme/iris-dna-atlas/

Talk by Dr. Edmund Gilbert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKXIiyQJTJY

slideshow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7Cwi8Bj3jA