STANDBYNORTH or STAMMER

[Webby]

Afternoon everyone,  I have found perhaps a direct ancestor to add to my tree....this one goes back to the 1500's.  But I have a couple of questions that someone may be able to help me with. 

Firstly, the name....has anyone ever hear of this name before?  I've concentrated on the Sussex side of the family - which in itself is quite taxing!. 

The children of the first John Standbynorth (bc 1510- died 1579) and his wife Johan (surname unknown) (also died in 1579) named their children Richard, Harry, John, Johan and probably (?) Grimbolde....the same family names, and so it goes - one generation to the next with those same names!  Not to mention wives with the names Mary, Ann & Elizabeth of course.   There is a Will for John, but it's proving extremely hard to read!. That's for another day!.

I'm still putting together an Excel sheet of BDM's of the family (in the Hastings area) to get an idea of who belongs to whom...but around the latter part of the 1600's, there appears to have been a change in the name to (I think)  Stammer/Stanmer/Stammyer etc. 

Could this be an option - a new shorter name?   

My other question is...what is a 'reader'?  A burial in 1574 has  - Marmaduke Stammer son of Richard a reader.?? This was from a transcription - not the BT.

Hopefully, you can give me some ideas about this one.

Many thanks

Webby

[JMB1943]

Webby,

I have the Standbinorth/Stanbinorth/Standbynorth line in my family tree.

My father was from Hastings and I have built my tree backwards to Gt-GT-Gt-grandfather from his info, and then via Ancestry further back.

My line is,
John Stanbinorth = Joan Ayte
1510-78
TO,
Henry Stanbinorth = Joan???
1538-90
TO,
Peter Stanbinorth = Joanna Rogerson
1579-1657
TO,
Richard Balle = Bridget Standbynorth
                         1610-45

and that is the last of my Standbynorth ancestors.

Because my tree is pretty much linear (direct descent), I have not recorded the various siblings/cousins along the STANB line, so cannot add anything more.

The given name Grimbolde is new to me, as is the Stammer/Stanmer derivation also.

Regards,

JMB

[Vance Mead]

For 'reader' I have sometimes seen 'reeder', a thatcher using reeds.


Here are a couple early records, from King's Bench and Common Pleas.

Kings Bench 1496
Stanbynorth, Richard, of Tyseherst, laborer; Alice his wife
https://waalt.uh.edu/index.php/KB27/939
original, third to last entry
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/H7/KB27no939/aKB27no939fronts/IMG_0102.htm

Common Pleas 1596
Stanbynower or Stanbynorthe, John, of Lewes, or of Hasting, mariner
https://waalt.uh.edu/index.php/CP40/1576-7:_K-Z
original, 2nd entry
http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT7/Eliz/CP40no1577/bCP40no1577dorses/IMG_2125.htm

[hepburn]

Could they have shortened their name to Stanbinorth?

Someone has a tree  of Stanbinorth's in Hastings.

I've just noticed,the tree has a Grimboil too.

[hepburn]

Oops,Grimball not Grimboil...Unless he has one on his backside

[Webby]

Morning, and thanks so much for answering my query!. 

Since my initial post I've tried to read the Will of the John Stanbinorth (sic) the Older and I might have to change my opinion!.  There are two men Richard & Peter who don't appear in that Will. 
Those appearing were:  Harry (son); John (son), Joan (sic), daughter & sister, Bridget, Harry Bossom (Bridget's son), Grombole (son) - and the wife wasn't named but at her death she was also Joan.

John (snr), Joan (wife), Joan (sister), Joan (daughter) and Richard 'young man' son of John (but which one Mr. Parish Priest...you didn't say!!!!).  All buried in 1578/9

That's not to say that they are not related...Standbynorth is not a very common name.  But as to where they fit in...that's the question!.

Phillis/Felice Standbinorth/Standbynorth was baptised  at All Saints in 1599 daughter of Pall (Paul) Standbinorth (1573-1642) - Fisherman (Pall/Paul was the son of a Richard Standbynorth -I have Richard (not John?) married firstly to Joan Atye 1561 and then to Margarett Fowxe in 1572).

Paul married Elizabeth Boroughe in 1598 (1575-1640).

Phillis Stanmer married John Gawen/Gawne in January 1598. 

John died in 1632 and Phillis remarried to William Stevenson.  Haven't found out what happened to her.  William died in 1645.  Phillis is mentioned in two Conveyance's regarding a property from her father. But after her marriage to William St(e)venson nothing at the moment. 

Phillis'son - Thomas Gawen married Ann Drinker

Thomas & Ann's daughter -  Ann Gawne - married John Thatcher.

But it's the Standbynorth part that has me stumped!.  Back to the drawing board. 

Cheers for now

Webby