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Re: Martin/Walsh Family Buried On Scattery Island
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 25 July 24 17:18 BST (UK) »

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.....were James and Michael Joseph the same person

No, they were different people.
James Walsh was in the RNVR which is different from Michael Joseph Walsh being in the Royal Navy.

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https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/2743436/michael-joseph-walsh/


Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Martin/Walsh Family Buried On Scattery Island
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 25 July 24 17:28 BST (UK) »
Irish Examiner Oct 12 1917
Mr M Walsh Navel Officer
The remains of Mr Michael Walsh Warrant Officer Royal Navy .....interment taking place in the saintly island of Scattery
among the chief mourners was brother Capt. J Walsh RNVR

Wife,  B Walsh
Mother,  Mrs Walsh
Sisters,  Mrs M O'Shea, Mrs Frances, Clonmel
Uncle,  Jas Martin
Aunt, Mrs McMahon, Limerick
Brother in Law,  Michael O'Shea solr
Mother in Law, Mrs M Poole

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Re: Martin/Walsh Family Buried On Scattery Island
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 25 July 24 17:31 BST (UK) »

Good find, Sinann

Daughter Mary Elizabeth Walsh born 3 February 1916 at Cappa.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1916/01349/1556750.pdf

Michael's rank - Warrant Officer on torpedo boat 052 stationed Queenstown, Co Cork.


Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Martin/Walsh Family Buried On Scattery Island
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 25 July 24 17:57 BST (UK) »

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....his marriage on 23 January 1915 to Bridget M Poole.

Poole family in 1911 census
House 6 in Cappagh (Kilrush Urban, Clare)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Clare/Kilrush_Urban/Cappagh/363815/

....and in the 1901 census
House 26 in Cappagh (Kilrush Urban, Clare)
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Clare/Kilrush_Urban/Cappagh/1081952/


Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo


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Re: Martin/Walsh Family Buried On Scattery Island
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 25 July 24 19:13 BST (UK) »
Great finds. Well done all.
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Martin/Walsh Family Buried On Scattery Island
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 25 July 24 23:52 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for all of your help, the info here plus gained on another site, make it fairly obvious that the man remembered on the headstone is not the man that died in 1917.

I will be contacting the CWGC asking them to erect a new headstone in the graveyard for Michael. Once I get a response from them I will post it on here.

Once again, thanks for your help.

Regards

Ian Chambers

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Re: Martin/Walsh Family Buried On Scattery Island’T
« Reply #15 on: Friday 26 July 24 04:18 BST (UK) »

*is that a ‘T’ or a ‘J’


It's a J, heywood.

Here's his marriage on 23 January 1915 to Bridget M Poole.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1915/09805/5559981.pdf
At St Senan RC Church, Kilrush, Co Clare.

Just to be super, super precise.  It is written as a T on the birth record being referred to .....you can see similar Ts (Torpey)  and a diferent capital J for a James (Clancy) further down.  On the marriage records the J is written in the same way as the capital 'J' on the births 

But whether it was correctly written as a T on the birth certificate is a different story.....I think not bearing mind the records since found particularly the marriage record when we always say those completing it are more likely to ensure it is correct....always exceptions though!

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Well done to all those who found the details that enable corrections/additions to be made to remember these ex-servicemen. 



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Re: Martin/Walsh Family Buried On Scattery Island
« Reply #16 on: Friday 26 July 24 07:18 BST (UK) »

Michael Joseph Walsh's wife's birth record-

Bridget Mary Clare Poole born 8 August 1893 at Cappa.   MMN Waters
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1893/02289/1859162.pdf


Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Martin/Walsh Family Buried On Scattery Island
« Reply #17 on: Friday 26 July 24 11:10 BST (UK) »
Bit confused Find A Grave has a record of Michael (no photo) but not the other Walsh headstone with James etc.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/272886027/michael_joseph-walsh
Would this have come from the CWGC record ( the wording gives that impression ) or from a headstone in the graveyard?
Perhaps it would be worth contacting the contributor if you haven’t already.