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Which regiment?
« on: Thursday 25 July 24 10:34 BST (UK) »
Can anyone tell me which regiment and who these people might be? I am pretty certain the sergeant is my grandfather, Robert Eglington.

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Re: Which regiment?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 25 July 24 20:27 BST (UK) »
The men seem to be soldiers from the first world war era, the Balmoral or Tam-o-shanter hat
indicates that they are in a Scottish Regiment & the trousers & Puttees (instead of a kilt) perhaps indicates that they a lowland regiment but see this reference for more info:

http://scottishmilitaryresearch.weebly.com/uploads/7/3/9/1/73918079/scottish_military_research_using_family_photographs.pdf

It is a pity that the photo doesn't show a cap badge as this would give a precise indication of which Regiment they were from.

There is also a Rootschat board for armed forces queries - why not try posting the photo there as well as there is more military expertise there.

Good luck!

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Re: Which regiment?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 26 July 24 12:00 BST (UK) »
Thx Rhonda. Yes it’s a real shame there is no cap badge. I will try the Armed Forces board too.

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Re: Which regiment?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 July 24 15:39 BST (UK) »
I totally agree with Ronda but, taking a closer look, my opinion is, these men were not front-line soldiers. Most of them look too old, perhaps they were in the Labour Corps? They should have been wearing cap badges, could it be the picture was taken at an angle that just excludes the badges? They would have been on the men's left side of the cap.
The criteria required to be in the Labour Corps was, men who weren't fit enough to carry a full pack 5? miles or, deaf in one ear, blind in one eye or have very poor sight. Some of these men do not look fit or able-bodied. 

Taking a closer look, I do think they are wearing cap-badges.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.


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Re: Which regiment?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 28 July 24 15:48 BST (UK) »
A scottish regiment by the hats but they could be a variety of things.  The age of the soldiers suggests not front line which is backed up by the leather belts which were not the 1908 webbing ones worn by the Regular Army.  They might be a 3rd line (ie UK based) battalion or even a 1917-18 Volunteer Battalion (think WW1 Home Guard). 


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Re: Which regiment?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 28 July 24 16:47 BST (UK) »
the leather belts which were not the 1908 webbing ones worn by the Regular Army.  They might be a 3rd line (ie UK based) battalion or even a 1917-18 Volunteer Battalion (think WW1 Home Guard).

The belts in the picture were also worn by the Labour Corps in WWI.
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.

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Re: Which regiment?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 28 July 24 17:09 BST (UK) »
Please get away form the Labour Corps theme as it is a red herring. The Labour Corps consisted of the non-front line fit who wore khaki peaked caps and the GS Coat of Arms cap badge and soldiers who were reclassified as down-graded often after wounding.  These soldiers often wore their former regiments hat and badges.  You see a huge variety of headgear of such units.  However they did not all wear scottish hats as in this picture.

This picture is of a Scottish unit wearing uniformal headdress so they were raised as a Scottish unit.


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Re: Which regiment?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 28 July 24 17:39 BST (UK) »
Having blown to the picture of the only visible cap badge, it is too blurred to be clear but it is not one of the Scottish Infantry cap badges which were all (less one) made in white metal and were large badges.

Your men may well be wearing the brass General Service cap badges.  There were worn by a variety of units (including the Labour Corps before then go their own badge) but by the 1916-18 Volunteer Force who wore the GS badge. 

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Re: Which regiment?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 28 July 24 17:44 BST (UK) »
Please get away form the Labour Corps theme as it is a red herring. The Labour Corps consisted of the non-front line fit who wore khaki peaked caps and the GS Cost of Arms cap badge and soldiers who were reclassified as down-graded often after wounding.  These soldiers often wore their former regiments hat and badges.  You see a huge variety of headgear of such units.  However they did not all wear scottish hats as in this picture.

This picture is of a Scottish unit wearing uniformal headdress so they were raised as a Scottish unit.

Here is a picture taken early in 1918, somewhere in France. It is a group of men from the 5th Labour Corps. I don't see any khaki peaked caps. I don't understand the meaning of "GS Cost of Arms".
Paterson, Torrance, Gilchrist - Hamilton Lanarkshire. 
McCallum - Oban, McKechnie - Ross of Mull Argyll.
Scrim - Perthshire. 
Liddell - Polmont,
Binnie - Muiravonside Stirlingshire.
Curran, McCafferty, Stevenson, McCue - Co Donegal
Gibbons, Weldon - Co Mayo.
Devlin - Co Tyrone.
Leonard - County Donegal & Glasgow.