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More marriage information than just Index?
« on: Wednesday 24 July 24 21:11 BST (UK) »
I managed to find an ancestor and spouse names on an "Index of Marriages in New Jersey" but it gives only those names and the year 1934. It's an index of spouses (or Brides).

It also refers to a Vol and Page number, presumably some other document that might give more info.

I can't seem to get any more information about this marriage but I feel it must be there somewhere - I've tried loads of ways to search. Even when I plug the names into a specific search of New Jersey Marriages, it finds nothing - not even the index I found originally, which seems odd.

I'm using Ancestry and FamilySearch.

The Source of the index (on Ancestry) is shown as:

"Source Citation
New Jersey State Archives; Trenton, New Jersey; Marriage Indexes; Index Type: Bride; Year Range: 1930-1935; Surname Range: R - Z; Reel Number: 33

Source Information
Ancestry.com. New Jersey, U.S., Marriage Index, 1901-2016 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.

Original data: Marriage Indexes. New Jersey State Archives, Trenton, New Jersey.

Description
This collection consists of images of an index to more than 1.1 million persons who married in New Jersey between 1901 and 2016. Learn more...
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Any hints on how I can get more information? Thanks.

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Re: More marriage information than just Index?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 July 24 21:42 BST (UK) »
I think it's likely that you would need to order the record, unless you're able to go to the NJ Archives.  Not everything is available online. 

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Re: More marriage information than just Index?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 July 24 22:56 BST (UK) »
It looks like Reclaim the Records got the NJ vital records indexes so far, but not the records.
https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/records-request/16/

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Re: More marriage information than just Index?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 25 July 24 15:45 BST (UK) »
You might be able to find a mention of the wedding or a marriage license in an online newspaper. 

This gives information about ordering the record - https://www.nj.gov/health/vital/order-vital/genealogical-records/


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Re: More marriage information than just Index?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 25 July 24 15:59 BST (UK) »
New Jersey is not an open records state. From the New Jersey Department of Health: "New Jersey law protects and restricts the release of vital records. Vital records are not public records and cannot be searched online."

Do you know if the bride and groom had a religious affiliation? There might be church marriage records available online.

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Re: More marriage information than just Index?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 25 July 24 21:23 BST (UK) »
Thank you very much everyone.

I looked again at the source image and realised that I could go back and back to get a listing based on husbands names, then track forwards to the husbands name.

This gave a "State File Number" for the marriage. But then I saw that the husband had an unexpected second name initial (James F instead of just James, as is on the Birth Register entry I found for him).

Then again, I've found solid evidence of this mans name and his wife's name on a gravestone and New Jersey certainly has a ring to it - this mans sister emigrated to there and his brothers lived there for a while with the sisters family. It all knits together well.

I do know that a registration document is, in itself, a copy of an original, so maybe he was James F after all and the transcription just left off the middle name.

Thanks again.