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Tracing an English (sea?) chest engraved "CL 1727"
« on: Tuesday 23 July 24 17:29 BST (UK) »
A relative inherited the wooden chest shown in the attached photo, which was supposedly passed down -- ultimately via the Gaskill/Gaskell family of Lancashire -- from an unknown ancestor of ours who reportedly owned schooners.  We assume the engraved "CL 1727", which is visible in the photo, refers to the ancestor, and we'll try to follow Ancestry.co.uk hints backwards from our known ancestors until, hopefully, we find someone with those initials from the early 18th C. 

Does anyone have other suggestions, specifically given the maritime angle to this mystery?  Also, is this what sea chests even looked like in the 18th Century? I am turning up much more rustic looking chests via Google Images. 

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Re: Tracing an English (sea?) chest engraved "CL 1727"
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 July 24 17:31 BST (UK) »
What is the interior like?
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Tracing an English (sea?) chest engraved "CL 1727"
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 July 24 17:33 BST (UK) »
Looks like a linen chest from that era.
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Re: Tracing an English (sea?) chest engraved "CL 1727"
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 July 24 17:37 BST (UK) »
That’s what I was thinking and  why I asked about the interior. It may have been the property of a ship owning family but not very suitable for sea going.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.


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Re: Tracing an English (sea?) chest engraved "CL 1727"
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 July 24 17:37 BST (UK) »
I was going to say have you got a photo of the interior of the lid showing the hinges?

It does look in too good condition to have ever been bashed around at sea.
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Re: Tracing an English (sea?) chest engraved "CL 1727"
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 July 24 17:42 BST (UK) »
Not a sea chest -- sea chests do not have legs like that. As stated in other posts, this is a linen chest of the 18th / 19th Century. Unless the date can be proven, it is suspicious as some of our Victorian ancestors liked to add embellishments to furniture.

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Re: Tracing an English (sea?) chest engraved "CL 1727"
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 July 24 18:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks, all.  That makes sense, with the initials and year carved as an embellishment (since presumably initials weren't usually carved into linen chests?)

An interior photo is attached.

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Re: Tracing an English (sea?) chest engraved "CL 1727"
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 23 July 24 18:38 BST (UK) »
To me the screws look modern so it looks like the hinges have been replaced.

My uneducated guess would be it was Victorian / Edwardian and it was bought with the inscription in place as others have said to make it look older at first glance.
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Re: Tracing an English (sea?) chest engraved "CL 1727"
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 23 July 24 18:42 BST (UK) »
The relatives who own this chest have certainly had some (probably insensitive) restoration work done over the years, but the wood and nails appear to my eye to be original.  I just can't gauge their age or the reason for engraving initials on such a chest.