Rayner's

[Welly07]

So I have looked into them and does seem like there both staying else where in 1911.

Going to try search the 1921 census for them and also looking at possible census for alice before she had kids, I found her in the 1871 census with her father and siblings but there is also a granddaughter living with them and checking the 1861 alice seems to be the oldest child.

She may have had a child at 16/17 years of age

[Ashtone]

1921 census - John & Alice Smee are living in Chertsey.

Alice is age 65. Birth year 1856. Birthplace is Sutton.

[Welly07]

Thank you, I hadn't checked yet

Was looking at baptism of William john Rayner, abot his there is an William and Elizabeth Rayner baptised son Frederick on the same day both living in Sutton.

And if the census I'm looking at it would seem Alice does have a brother called William who marries an Elizabeth

Seems that we may be on the right lines of this

[Ashtone]

I found her in the 1871 census with her father and siblings but there is also a granddaughter living with them and checking the 1861 alice seems to be the oldest child.

This may be another possibility for Alice (unless it's also the record you found) --

1871 census - George Street, Sutton

Alice is age 17. Living with widowed mother Mary Rayner (age 40) and younger siblings.

Alice and Mary are recorded as servants (with "Late" written above, on the census image).

There is a granddaughter Elizabeth with them, age 0.

July 1870 baptism for Mary Elizabeth Rayner in Epsom.
Mother's name Alice Rayner (single woman).

[Ashtone]

1861 census - Main Road, Sutton

Thomas & Mary Rayers, with four children. Alice is age 7.

Father Thomas Rayner (age 36) is an ostler. Birthplace is Croydon.

[trish1120]

Back to the 1911 John Drew says he has had no children from his Marriage so George/John are just children of Alice.

Alice is with the Drew family. Eliza Rayner married George Drew 1885 (image on Anc)
Elizas Father THOMAS a Ostler
Looks like Alice a witness.

1871 Eliza is with mother Mary, Sister Alice and siblings.