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Offline AusFamily

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unsure of surname 1700s
« on: Sunday 14 July 24 07:21 BST (UK) »
The attached graphic is of the marriage banns of Ralph Adams dated 18 Aug. 1740, in Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire.

His wife's name is hard to decipher
ancestry.com and family search has it as Elizabeth Hindell
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N28D-8LC
findmypast.co.uk has it as Elizabeth Kendell
Hertfordshire Archives has it as Elizabeth Windell

I am trying to trace where she may have been born, therefore a correct surname would be a help.

thank you

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Re: unsure of surname 1700s
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 14 July 24 09:08 BST (UK) »
Boyd's Marriage Indexes has the name as ARNDELL

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Re: unsure of surname 1700s
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 14 July 24 09:31 BST (UK) »
And the FindmyPast transcription has ELiz AMDELL.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: unsure of surname 1700s
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 July 24 18:30 BST (UK) »
If forced to choose between the above two, I would prefer Arndell (which Reaney associates with Arundale in his dictionary of surnames). However, I am not certain that the first letter is "A".


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Re: unsure of surname 1700s
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 16 July 24 04:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks everyone
hard to know what to think. Kendall could also be a possibility.
I will have to see if there are baptism records for all the various surname variations in that area for that period

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Re: unsure of surname 1700s
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 16 July 24 08:04 BST (UK) »
Yes, baptisms a good idea. Also Boyd's is the most contemporary record, so I suggest looking at the original of Boyd.

Here is the link to FamilySearch, as OP stated there is transcribed as Hindell
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N28D-8LZ
though I'm not sure which original source they have used.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: unsure of surname 1700s
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 16 July 24 18:58 BST (UK) »
I would strongly favor a capital "A" as the initial letter.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: unsure of surname 1700s
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 16 July 24 19:13 BST (UK) »
I think it would be helpful to see other entries on the page for 'K' and 'H'.

Wexflyer - I don't see any similarity with the 'A' of Adams in Ralph's name.

Can the OP please say where the banns page can be accessed.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: unsure of surname 1700s
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 16 July 24 19:17 BST (UK) »


Wexflyer - I don't see any similarity with the 'A' of Adams in Ralph's name.


To me the core of the letter A is identical in both. The large curl to the left in Adams may be due to the following letter "d"
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area