Author Topic: NSW Birth Record - Patrick Michael Ford AKA Patrick Walter Ford  (Read 1253 times)

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NSW Birth Record - Patrick Michael Ford AKA Patrick Walter Ford
« on: Saturday 13 July 24 21:19 BST (UK) »
Having used the usual resources shown on RootsChat , I have been unable to find a birth record
for a Patrick Ford whose middle names have been shown to include 'Michael' or 'Walter , or a combination of 'Michael &  'Walter' .

His birth has been noted as 13th March 1915 , Broken Hill , New South Wales , Australia.
That information was recorded on his 1958 marriage certificate, at Wanganui , New Zealand
His parents are listed as :
Edward John Ford , painter
Adeline Avis Ford nee  Godfrey

On his NZ  marriage certificate his name is recorded as Patrick Walter Ford .

His death in New Zealand is officially indexed as :
1983/ 29610  Ford , Patrick  Michael , born 13 March 1915 .

My hope is that a knowledgeable  'Rootschatter'  will find  some information for me !

In Appreciation
RayRob

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Re: NSW Birth Record - Patrick Michael Ford AKA Patrick Walter Ford
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 July 24 21:46 BST (UK) »
I looked at this when you posted  yesterday (and failed ). It would be best if you ask the moderator to merge them.

Anyway…he’s a new made man isn’t he!
Have you figured out who the Patrick Walter at Ohaupo in 1957 is?  With a wife Isabel Jean

Have you found any WW2 records for him (Aust or NZ?)
I can’t find the said parents anywhere either.

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Re: NSW Birth Record - Patrick Michael Ford AKA Patrick Walter Ford
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 13 July 24 23:28 BST (UK) »


Is this a first marriage for Patrick?  What age is his wife at 1958?

What church did he marry in (denomination)?

What occupation do you have for Patrick?

What information is on his death certificate?

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Re: NSW Birth Record - Patrick Michael Ford AKA Patrick Walter Ford
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 14 July 24 05:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your interest , wivenhoe

According to His  1958 NZ  marriage  certificate , Patrick Walter Ford , aged 42 years ,  had been granted a divorce
( decree absolute )   11th March  1948.
His second marriage took place at the Registrar's office  in Wanganui , New Zealand .
His  occupation was 'Hospital Orderly'
His bride was Henrietta Maude  Goater , housemaid , aged 25 years . .
The bride and groom were living ( separately ) in Wanganui
There is plenty of available information about Henrietta "Hetty" Goater and her parents .

I have not seen Patrick's  Death Certificate .


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Re: NSW Birth Record - Patrick Michael Ford AKA Patrick Walter Ford
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 14 July 24 05:36 BST (UK) »
Patrick was a roadman in 1960, the same occupation as the man with Isabel Jean in 1957.

Debra  :)

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Re: NSW Birth Record - Patrick Michael Ford AKA Patrick Walter Ford
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 14 July 24 05:48 BST (UK) »


At marriage, 1958, Patrick Walter FORD is rather older than Henrietta. Human vanity being what it is, Patrick might be older still, having taken a few years off his age.

Is Patrick your direct ancestor?  Where did Patrick die and where is he buried?

Did you meet Patrick, ie. do you have your own memories of Patrick?


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Re: NSW Birth Record - Patrick Michael Ford AKA Patrick Walter Ford
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 14 July 24 05:52 BST (UK) »
Did the divorce document have to be shown to the registrar in 1948?

I can’t see any with that name in Australia or NZ papers which I feel is unusual for the time.

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Re: NSW Birth Record - Patrick Michael Ford AKA Patrick Walter Ford
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 14 July 24 06:11 BST (UK) »

I have to wonder whether or not  this is  the man in question

Name   Patrick Michael Ford
Death Date   1983
Cemetery   Mangatainoka Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place   Pahiatua, Tararua District, Manawatū-Whanganui, New Zealand
Has Bio?   N
URL   
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/171620964/patrick-michael-ford



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Re: NSW Birth Record - Patrick Michael Ford AKA Patrick Walter Ford
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 14 July 24 06:21 BST (UK) »


Can you please give attention to my questions -

At marriage, 1958, Patrick Walter FORD is rather older than Henrietta. Human vanity being what it is, Patrick might be older still, having taken a few years off his age.

Is Patrick your direct ancestor?  Where did Patrick die and where is he buried?

Did you meet Patrick, ie. do you have your own memories of Patrick?

This for P M W  FORD  died 1983 -

https://www.tararuadc.govt.nz/living-here/community-information/cemeteries/cemetery-record-details?plotid=17491

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