Harry Warner – Marriage(s)/early life

[CaroleW]

and any marriages before he married – Ida Temperley (Jones) in 1953,

Have you viewed his marital status on the 1939 register?

[CaroleW]

I agree re 1938 marriage.  That was a second marriage - the first was 1917 when Harry b 1904 was only 13

[Bill 4423]

Many thanks for ALL the replies (appreciated), some interesting information on Harrys family, ordering the marriage certificate of him and Ida is a very good idea (heywood, thanks), I assume this should/would give Widowed/divorced etc?   

[CaroleW]

Yes it would but it would still leave the question of who he married before Ida.   The 1939 entry I mentioned only confirms marital status but no wife with him. 

Do you know if he had any children before he married Ida as their birth registrations would give their mothers maiden name?

It would be a good idea to get that 1953 marriage cert anyway as it would confirm his father was Edward.  Whilst his birthdate on the 1999 death matches the March qtr 1904 birth etc - there are 2 other births in the next quarter.  If his birth was registered after 31st March 1904 there is always the possibility he could be a different Harry Warner. 

[Bill 4423]

Yes it would but it would still leave the question of who he married before Ida.   The 1939 entry I mentioned only confirms marital status but no wife with him. 

Do you know if he had any children before he married Ida as their birth registrations would give their mothers maiden name?

It would be a good idea to get that 1953 marriage cert anyway as it would confirm his father was Edward.  Whilst his birthdate on the 1999 death matches the March qtr 1904 birth etc - there are 2 other births in the next quarter.  If his birth was registered after 31st March 1904 there is always the possibility he could be a different Harry Warner.

As far as I understand, he had no children, him and Ida definitely did not. My guess is he was widowed, he was an absolute gent, I’d be surprised if he had divorced. I will order the certificate and post back, is a pdf of a marriage possible from the GRO? I think I have the correct GRO info.

[CaroleW]

Unfortunately not - pdf versions are only available for births over 100yrs prior to application and deaths to 1957

[heywood]

There are newspaper snippets, I have no access to them though which mention Edward Warner’s behaviour and maintenance arrears to his wife etc - 1909.

[Bill 4423]

I have received Harry and Ida’s marriage certificate, on it, it says Harry’s “condition” (marital status) is BATCHELOR. Was his 1939 information MARRIED?
Info
26TH December 1953 - Harry Warner – 49 years – Boiler erector – Address – Edward Warner (Deceased) – boilermaker.

Ida Temperley – 41 years – Widow – chemical process worker – Address – Walter Jones (Deceased)

Interesting that Harry never spoke of his family to anyone, ever. Before he died, he flatly refused to make a will (died intestate, not a poor man), This all seems to tally with the information I know of them and info on this thread (apparently his farther was not dead).

[CaroleW]

The 1939 entry shows M against his marital status