Death due to Suicide

[Ashtone]

Can I just ask what decade the death occurred?

[Glen in Tinsel Kni]

Mention of the coroner and an inquest in the informant column along with the previously mentioned 'whilst of unsound mind' type references under cause of death are the only things that could look a little unusual.  I have a couple in my tree along with two sudden deaths for chaps who dropped dead in the street, inquest and coroner references on all of them but nothing else to raise any eyebrows. 

[Lola5]

Surely if you have name , place and date of death  ( from the newspaper cutting,can't you simply send off for a cert from GRO?

Cost £9 when I last ordered certs. Some years back.
If not in UK then   it will the GRO of whatever place and cost much more.
It is a death, by whatever means, and would be registered.

[Brian E 1]

Hello,
     in reply to your mention of contacting the GRO they were contacted and though not able to find a death corresponding to the details given they offered advice :
a. Try permutations of names, spellings, and mis-matching - which I did
b. They also suggested seeking out assistance from the local FHS to the place of death,
    in this case it was Huddersfield, and after some research they too were unable to find any details.
    Though they did suggest I might contact the encumbent of the parish church to see if any other
    records might be extant. That is in hand.

So I think it might be a useful exercise to see if, with the following details, a fellow researcher might
already have found my quest.

The details are
Deceased : Richard MORTIMER age 61 years, shoemaker of Brigham Fold, Meltham, Yorks.
                 Died between 11.00pm 20th July 1895 and am 21st July 1895

                Inquest held 22nd July 1895 at the Railway Hotel, Meltham, Yorks.

Any information will be greatfully received and much appreciated.

Brian E

[aghadowey]

The details are
Deceased : Richard MORTIMER age 61 years, shoemaker of Brigham Fold, Meltham, Yorks.
                 Died between 11.00pm 20th July 1895 and am 21st July 1895

                Inquest held 22nd July 1895 at the Railway Hotel, Meltham, Yorks. 

What about this record?
Deaths Apr./Jun 1896  Mortimer    Richard    60    Leeds    9b   346

[Brian E 1]

Update.
I am able to advise with the help of some researchers, the clergy and local government officers, the following was found :
Richard was afforded a burial, in an adjacent burial ground in his parish.
It is recorded (as yet not determined in which document) in church records.

The local registry office have again checked their records around the date of death / burial, for their districts and sub-districts and confirm there is no record.
Which in turn means no record was ever sent to the GRO.

Richard "slipped the net " it would seem.

The district local FHS have been extremely helpful in my search. So I thank them and recommend if you are stumped always ask, they might just be able to assist or point you in the right direction.

I have enough information now, to know where and when my elusive character was laid to rest to seek out others.

Thank you all for comments / suggestions / interest in my quest.

 Brian E

[haliared]

I came across one way back in my research where the death was registered under 'unknown' but later identified. Sometimes searching the surname Unknown in the GRO can find it but remember if unknown when the death was registered, the age was probably a huge estimate!

[Brian E 1]

Understood,
    I have found a consistency with my research subject of his age. It has not varied and as best as I can tell the local registry office found no death at time and place of anyone of the same age.

 As I said I think this one has slipped the net, but you do wonder how many others might similarly have gone astray.

Regards Brian E

[Chris Doran]

Have you checked out the one suggested by aghadowey? There is often a delay in registering a death when an inquest is involved. I had one with a similar length of time, though that was for a murder in more recent times and would have involved police investigations and maybe a wait for a trial. But your local registry office should know about such situations.