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Re: Death due to Suicide
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 09 July 24 12:17 BST (UK) »
Thanks Anthony..i know better now  :D 
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Re: Death due to Suicide
« Reply #10 on: Monday 29 July 24 15:09 BST (UK) »
Follow-Up;
I passed coroner details to GRO, as an enquiry, to see if maybe an additional listing may exist for deaths such as suicide.

However, after a while I got a scripted response : viz "what you see, is all we have got", in so much if I can't find it, it looks that it may well have been unrecorded.

So onward and upward and thanks to you all for your responses.

Brian E

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Re: Death due to Suicide
« Reply #11 on: Monday 29 July 24 15:40 BST (UK) »
You should be asking the registration office in the district in which the death occurred - once the inquest has been concluded then that is where the information is sent by the coroner for the registration to happen. It's possible the coroners officer hasn't forwarded the info, or the registrars haven't acted on it.

No point talking to GRO.

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Re: Death due to Suicide
« Reply #12 on: Monday 29 July 24 15:45 BST (UK) »
Actually just sent an email.
Lets see what occurs

Thanks

 Brian E


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Re: Death due to Suicide
« Reply #13 on: Monday 29 July 24 15:48 BST (UK) »
You haven't told us where else you've looked apart from newspapers, but if it's in a year covered by FreeBMD and is there, I understand that you can give the register details from FreeBMD to the GRO and they will look again. If it's a quite recent year, you may have to wait for FreeBMD to catch up. It has a page giving its % coverage for various years.

The subscription sites have lists beyond where FreeBMD ends, but many of their entries come from sources other than the GRO registers, e.g. newspapers and burial records, and won't help with the GRO.
Researching Penge, Anerley, (including the Crystal Palace) and neighbouring parts of Beckenham, currently in London (Bromley), formerly Surrey and/or Kent.

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Re: Death due to Suicide
« Reply #14 on: Monday 29 July 24 16:30 BST (UK) »
Chris,
Thanks for your reply.
My research has utilised Free BMD, Ancestry, FindMyPast, Newspapers of the time and Family Search.
All variants of spellings and corruptions of spellings of the name, misspellings and a coverage over an extended date timeframe were also checked.
Nothing has / had become evident, hence I have just sought out a response from the local register office, BUT unexpectedly it has come back as an undeliverable.
So I will try again.

What I was originally enquiring is / had anyone experienced a similar path : the inability to find a
death registration possibly due due to the cause of death.

I will persevere

Regards Brian E

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Re: Death due to Suicide
« Reply #15 on: Monday 05 August 24 16:56 BST (UK) »
Hello again,
        Eventually, I managed to contact the registrars, in the district of the death, as detailed in the newspaper reports.
Whilst they were unable to confirm any factual details as confirmation, they suggested a local fhs site to be re-directed to, for local assistance.

This done, I await a response

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Re: Death due to Suicide
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 06 August 24 17:10 BST (UK) »
I can't imagine what they think the FHS will be able to do, that's like asking B&Q for an interior door and being directed to the local garden fence company.

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Re: Death due to Suicide
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 06 August 24 17:32 BST (UK) »
Hello,
       well yes I do understand, but its plucking at straws and every chance has to be given.

What has amazed me thus far is the newspapers have well detailed the name, occupation, age and location with almost precise pinpoint accuracy.
The following inquest has the details, but after which nothing in "officialdom" appears to be recorded and that does amaze me.

I had wondered if a suicide death was recorded differently to a "usual" passing.
Nothing yet says differently.

I will allow the fhs  to respond and see if they might have other info.
But in the meantime nothing in the usual channels is showing  a possible avenue to explore.

Thank you all for your responses

 Regards Brian E