Supposedly Immigrated from Italy to New Zealand

[Gussey2024]

I am trying to trace my ancestry, but I have no idea where to start.  I found a post on this forum back in 2011 where I believe my Aunty was asking for some information, but never really got anywhere. 

All I know is my Great x 3 Grandfather Antonio was born in Naples, Italy, in 1841, and married Mary Jane Moore in New Zealand.  The story we have been told is that told he changed his last name from Gussette to Gussy (Gussey, Gusei), but where & when this occurred, I do not know.  Any idea's if there would be records available for name changes? I believe this could be the best approach in trying to confirm what our actual family name is, and how our family lineage links back to Italy.

Thanks in advance for any help / assistance that is provided

[goldie61]

Here is a link to the post previously made about this.
(It's always a good idea to do this so that people don't spend time going over the same ground again)
You say your aunt 'never really got anywhere' with this research.
There were several leads in the help that people gave in this post to be followed up.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=505690.0

Have you got the marriage certificate of Antonio Gusei and Mary Jane Moore in New Zealand in 1865 as suggested by spades in that previous post?
What other information does it give?
You can send for the certificate here.
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dMarriageSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults

Have you got the death certificate for Anthony Gussy  who died June 3rd 1888? Found by minniehaha.
What other information does that give?

findagrave have an index for him, but no photo of the grave.
Plot Roman Catholic Division A, Row 2, Plot 13

This is the entry of his burial from The Roman Catholic Interments.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9P1-Y9SV-2?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQ2SB-LWK7&action=view

[goldie61]

It took me a little sleuthing!, but this is his burial record where you can send for his death certificate.
Nothing comes up on the nzbmd site for Anthony Gussey, or permutations of his name.

It is under 'Bussy' (mistranscribed I suspect from the original handwriting)
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search?Path=querySubmit.m%3fReportName%3dDeathSearch%26recordsPP%3d30#SearchResults

(Searched on familysearch.org for the death of an Anthony in 1888. Left out the surname).

This may or may not give you some information, it all depends on how much the informant of his death knew about him.
This, and the marriage certificate, are your first lines of possible information.

[goldie61]

His death notice in the papers

As Lucy2 said in the other post:
It does seem quite likely that his name change came about, simply, by "common usage", (perfectly legal) - rather than by the formal naturalisation process.   
[I've checked through NZ Naturalisation records using variations of the surname (and just using the christian name too) ... and wasn't able to find anything.]

As for spelling variations arising in use of adopted surname > these are probably just the usual errors which occurred with an unusual name.'

[mckha489]

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Nothing comes up on the nzbmd site for Anthony Gussey, or permutations of his name.



(Searched on familysearch.org for the death of an Anthony in 1888. Left out the surname).

Goldie61 - if you put a 'full stop' '.' on it's own, not in quotes in the surname field on the NZBDM site it acts as a wildcard for the surname.

[spades]

Hi Gussey, and welcome to RootsChat

I'll just move this topic across to the main New Zealand Board where more people will see it and hopefully provide more information.

Regards,

Spades
Moderator, New Zealand Board

[goldie61]

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Nothing comes up on the nzbmd site for Anthony Gussey, or permutations of his name.



(Searched on familysearch.org for the death of an Anthony in 1888. Left out the surname).

Goldie61 - if you put a 'full stop' '.' on it's own, not in quotes in the surname field on the NZBDM site it acts as a wildcard for the surname.

That's useful to know mckha 

Although I'm in NZ, I don't do a lot of NZ research so not found all the little tricks round the NZ site.
Thank goodness for familysearch!

[Gussey2024]

Thank you all so much for the information shared/found so far. This will go a long way in getting the Ball rolling.
goldie61 When I said my aunt "never really got anywhere" I meant this relation to the end goal and did not mean any disrespect to all the people who provided leads in the original post.  I found the Burial details posted by minniehaha in the original post I have been to Waikumete Cemetary and found Antonio Plot.  There is no gravestone there so I will work through that with the wider family.  I have also found the plots for several other family members all at Waikumete Cemetery.  I will order the death certificate, and Marriage certificate, hopefully they will provide some valuable insight

[Lucy2]

 I will order the death certificate, and Marriage certificate, hopefully they will provide some valuable insight

Hello Gussey2024 ... welcome to RootsChat.   

I just wanted to add additional information for you regarding ordering / purchasing, New Zealand Birth, Death and Marriage records.

Whilst earlier replies have talked about obtaining birth/death/marriage certificates, we generally advise (here on the NZ board), that purchasing the "printout" version of these records, is a  preferable option, in that they generally carry more information (- being a facsimile of the actual record, rather than details which have been transcribed to make up a certificate format). 

In the case of an 1865 NZ marriage record, unfortunately there won't be a great deal of information.
[ Parental details did not appear on NZ marriage records until late in 1880.  ]
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/timeline

At following link, are details of the type (amount) of information you can expect to find on NZ BDM records over the years. 
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=259108.0

       ~  Lu