Author Topic: Supposedly Immigrated from Italy to New Zealand  (Read 1635 times)

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Re: Supposedly Immigrated from Italy to New Zealand
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 09 July 24 10:47 BST (UK) »
Thanks Lucy2.  It definitely sounds like the death certificate might be the best approach in the first instance.  Hopefully, as Antonio's death was after 1876 it will list the Name of father, and Name and maiden surname of mother.

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Re: Supposedly Immigrated from Italy to New Zealand
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 09 July 24 10:57 BST (UK) »
  It definitely sounds like the death certificate might be the best approach in the first instance. 

Yes ... but don't order the certificate ... it's the "printout" record of the death which is going to contain the best available information.   
[When you come to order, the NZ BDM website will give you the options "Printout" or certificate.   The "Printout" is actually cheaper to purchase, also.  ;) ]

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Re: Supposedly Immigrated from Italy to New Zealand
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 09 July 24 11:10 BST (UK) »
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It is under 'Bussy' (mistranscribed I suspect from the original handwriting)
Unfortunately I don't think this is correct, as when I went to order the Death Printout I noticed the date recorded as Death printout from 1 Jan 1875
I think the name Anthony Bussy must have been pure coincidence or am I showing how new I am to this research thing and this actually means from 1 Jan 1875 onwards?

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Re: Supposedly Immigrated from Italy to New Zealand
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 09 July 24 11:24 BST (UK) »
Hi again Gussey2024

Not sure if you are familiar with the Ancestry.com website where a great many people post their family trees ???   

At that site there are a total of 47 trees which include information on the "Antonio (Anthony) (GUSSETTE) GUSSY" family.   [ Additionally, there's a further group of trees totalling 36 for same family.  They may be repetitious of the other group of 47 ??? - I haven't checked them. ]

What this means is that others have already "researched" (OR simply copied the info), of  the wider Antonio GUSSY family.     
It's always wise to be cautious of the information these trees contain - many don't give the sources of their findings.

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Re: Supposedly Immigrated from Italy to New Zealand
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 09 July 24 11:44 BST (UK) »
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It is under 'Bussy' (mistranscribed I suspect from the original handwriting)
Unfortunately I don't think this is correct, as when I went to order the Death Printout I noticed the date recorded as Death printout from 1 Jan 1875
I think the name Anthony Bussy must have been pure coincidence or am I showing how new I am to this research thing and this actually means from 1 Jan 1875 onwards?

It means "from 1 January 1875 onwards".    And the surname appears to be a mis-transcription.

But if you want to make absolutely certain before ordering, you can check "the actual date of death"
which pertains to that reference number.   Here's how it is done  >
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=745785.0

But I've already worked it out for you  ;D   

1888/2003 - BUSSY - Anthony - 47 years
Date of Death - as deduced from this NZ BDM record - is  03 June 1888

Think I saw somewhere ... PapersPast site ??  ... the actual death notice for Anthony GUSSY ... * husband of Mary Jane ... died at Auckland on 3 June 1888.:

    ~  Lu

Edit :   * Death notice did not mention wife's name I've since found.

Tip:   ;D   If you're ever unsure of anything when ordering records, NZ BDM are usually happy to help if you email them.




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Re: Supposedly Immigrated from Italy to New Zealand
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 09 July 24 11:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much!!  I really appreciate it.  I have now ordered the Death Certificate, so fingers crossed!!

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Re: Supposedly Immigrated from Italy to New Zealand
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 10 July 24 02:07 BST (UK) »
I have received the death printout.  Unfortunately there is no additional information on it. The parents name fields were blank  :(

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Re: Supposedly Immigrated from Italy to New Zealand
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 10 July 24 02:21 BST (UK) »
I have received the death printout.  Unfortunately there is no additional information on it. The parents name fields were blank  :(

Oh dear! That's a shame.
Does it say who the informant was?

Back to the drawing board!
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Re: Supposedly Immigrated from Italy to New Zealand
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 10 July 24 07:00 BST (UK) »
Does anyone have any idea how to order a birth certificate from Italy, and obviously how one would navigate the Italian language?