Sully sur Loire death record?

[Colchester]

I'm researching Lt. Appolos Morris born c.1780 in Derry. Served in the Peninsular wars, POW Verdun, then St. Helena with the 66th guarding Napoleon. He returned to England but shortly after took residence in France. His will indicates that he died 16 October 1822 at Sully sur Loire, Centre Val de Loire. I've done all the usual online searches for his death without success! Is anyone able to help with the death in France and any surrounding information? Happy to provide any information that I have.

[goldie61]

His will indicates that he died 16 October 1822 at Sully sur Loire, Centre Val de Loire.

His will is available on The National Archives.

I read it that he wrote this will on 16 October 1822, not died on that day.
Administration was then given on 7 March 1823 to William Morris his brother.
So he died sometime between these dates.

It does not look as if it was at Sully sur Loire.
The tables of births, marriages and deaths from January 1823 to January 1833 are on the archives-loiret site.
(I was going to post a link, but it's a huge string of letters and numbers - far too long to post on here. Sorry if you've already looked at this).
The site is https://www.archives-loiret.fr
You need to go to 'Etat civil et registres paroissiaux'
In the commune/paroisse box type 'Sully sur Mer', and '1823' in the date box.

The listing for the deaths from 1819 - 1828 are top of the list.
I've looked through the register.
He is not in it.

The 10 year tables for 1823 - 1833 are the 4th entry.
They start January 1823. His name is not listed.

I've checked the Hotel des Invalides archives page in case he was ever taken in there perhaps unwell after being a a Prisoner of War, but nothing comes up.

https://www.hoteldesinvalides.org/index.php?reset=1&onglet=0&lang

Sorry not to have been more help.


Perhaps he came back to England and died there?
His 'good friends' who swear the writing and signature of the will of Apollos were from Charing Cross London.


By the way, I see his name is always written Apollos in this document, not Appolos as you have written. He has actually signed 'Apollos Morris'.
Not that it would make a lot of difference when searching really.

[garstonite]

Could this be him
baptised 12th November 1812 Derry City
buried 16th July 1832 in Dingapore ,Bengal ,India aged 20
lets not forget not all trees are correct - but it looks like he was India as a soldier and was killed in action - BUT - 20 seems young for a Lt
https://gw.geneanet.org/mouse1?n=morris&oc=&p=apollos

ADDED forgot to say the tree has his Dad as William Morris and his mum as Jane Bruce 

I would say the tree owner is descended from brother William Morris born November 1819 - tree owner is a Bronwen Edmonds
William Morris
Married February 21, 1847, All Saints, Fulham, England, to Sarah Bennett May ca 1818-1906 with
M George Morris ca 1842
M Willam Morris ca 1848
M John Bruce Morris 1850-1887
F Kate Morris 1853
M Apollos Morris 1855-1926
F Mary Morris 1856
 nice to see he named a son after his dead brother Appolos 

[joger]

Geneanet gives several Apollos Morris (mouse1 īs tree), one is supposed to have died in 1826.

Familysearch gives  an Apollus Morris prisonner of war in France , Napoleonic Wars, available at the National Archives.

[goldie61]

In the will of Apollos in 1823, he leaves bequests to his sisters Ann Kelso, and Martha Clements.
He also leaves a bequest to his nephew Apollos Morris.
As William is the only brother mentioned in the will, this Apollos is probably William's son.

There are no wife or children of his own mentioned in the will, so it sounds as though he was not married.

His estate was held at Messrs Greenwood Cox & Co.
They were the Army Agents at Craig's Court London.

Added:
There is a tree on MyHeritage for him. (this may be your tree for all I know).
It has him born about 1780 in Londonderry (no specific date or source given).
No father's name.
Mother possibly Ann.
It gives a death date of about 1826, but again no specific date or source.
I suspect they had not seen the will when they made this tree.
HIs place of death is given as 'Craig's Court, Charing Cross, Middlesex', but this was the name of the Solicitors where his property and funds were, so I think that's highly unlikely.                       
This tree indeed shows his sister Ann, married named Kelso, and his sister Martha, married name Clements.
Ann's husband was named John, and she seems to have spent most of her life, after being born in Ireland about 1782, in Lancashire where she died 12th Feb 1849 at Cheetham, Lancs.

Apollos's brother William married in Londonderry about 1810.
He had children William, born Nov 1819, died 1901 in Middlesex, and Apollos born Oct 1812 in Ireland, died 2 July 1832 Bengal India, a 'gunner'.

So this Apollos died 1832, would have been the nephew of the Lieutenant Apollos, as mentioned in his will.

Interestingly, this tree says of Apollos senior 'His sword was passed down through the Kelso line.'

[joger]

The owner of the trees on geneanet  with the Apollos Morris is of Kelso lineage.
May be you could contact her.

[Colchester]

Thanks everyone. This has been a long and frustrating project! I've been collaborating with family trying to identify the Morris family of Derry. Apollos wrote a stream of personal letters to his Mother and siblings. I've put a tree on Ancestry named 'Apollos Morris' that will search to the  letters. Your replies are correct...hopefully the tree will clarify. I'll follow up on the death...it was only to hope for clues on his origins. Lots of theories but no evidence!!!!

[Colchester]

Again, thanks for the input....and thanks for the local French death database. Trawled but nothing! The fact that his letters are directed only to his mother and siblings may indicate that his father was dead! That takes me to a Major Apollos Morris who relinquished his commission to travel to America and mediate (his interaction with George Washington is published). There is a newspaper record (attached) but I've nothing thereafter ( prisoner, collaborated with the Americans, Admirals ship at Spithead). It reports that he was 'late of the 27th' (latterly Inniskilling) but not comes up on the current website archive search. It looks like the only way I can progress is through muster roles and/or people with much more expertise than I! Guidance would be much appreciated!