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Re: Looking for Ann Tarleton
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 04 July 24 17:33 BST (UK) »
Thanks again for your input, it certainly is a mystery, I had not really explored to much of Martha Elizabeth but this has given me something to consider when I do.
I found record in the Liverpool archives with the name of the benevolent institution and have sent an email to ask if they have records of inmates 1853, you never know there may by some chance be a record that may have next of kin names for example.

I am still very new to this and am blown away by the generosity of people on this site, thank you for all the time you take trying to help.

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Re: Looking for Ann Tarleton
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 04 July 24 17:48 BST (UK) »
Hi
It is a difficult one. There were a few Ann Turtons about in the north of England of a similar age, so it certainly isn't certain that it was your Ann Tarleton who had that sad accident.

On the face of it she seems a slightly unlikely candidate, though on the other hand she has disappeared after the 1851 census.

I was minded to think maybe it wasn't her, but there is something...
Sorry to harp on about Elizabeth, but do you know what happened to her? I noticed from the free index on findmypast that there are some possible admissions for her to Liverpool workhouse. Of course it may not be her, but she would be a candidate.
They are also on FamilySearch

20 March 1856, Elizabeth Tarlton, 18, settlement Liverpool, Protestant, located Lock, discharged 7 April 1856, from Lock
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-QF2G-2

1 August 1856, Elizabeth Tarlton, 19, located Lock, discharged 9 August 1856, from Lock
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-QF5V-J

Two more in 1857, no longer in the lock ward
23 October, Elizabeth Tarleton, 19, located Class, discharged 30 October 1857, from Class
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-QFT6-J

Then top of the next page/image, and it seems she was readmitted the same day
30 October 1857, Elizabeth Tarleton, 19, located Class, discharged 11 November 1857, from Class

The thing is, the Lock wards in workhouses were for women with sexual diseases (sometimes there were wards for men as well)
So rather like the lock hospitals. Often associated with prostitutes :(

The name Turton was given with what I assume was a newspaper report, the death certificate actually has the name as Talton which if written as it was heard is not far away from Tarleton, this is what has caused me so much confusion.

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Re: Looking for Ann Tarleton
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 04 July 24 17:54 BST (UK) »
Sorry if I've missed it, but have John &/or Eleanor been found after 1851?

I've just found them in 1861!

But I can't see them in 1871.

I've now found them in West Derby in 1871.  They seem a respectable couple ???  John was in work.

They have a grandson called Alfred Dixon living with them - whose son is he?

For some strange reason I am not getting an 1870's census up at all on Ancestry only electoral registers


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Re: Looking for Ann Tarleton
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 04 July 24 18:19 BST (UK) »
Look at my reply #35 just the end bit. (after a bit of a red herring)
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
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Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott


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Re: Looking for Ann Tarleton
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 04 July 24 19:00 BST (UK) »
If John married Elizabeth Goode in 1832 and Mary born 1831, could she be Elizabeth Goode's illeg daughter?

I think she was born a little later only one census suggests that year, I now have her marriage record from Nov 1862 where her age is given as 29. That may be more accurate than the census perhaps, one census has her year of birth as 1847!

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Re: Looking for Ann Tarleton
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 04 July 24 19:54 BST (UK) »
Death
Dec 1875 West Derby 8b 364
Tarleton, John   
Age 60   

Liverpool Mercury, 16 October 1875
Deaths
TARLETON—Oct. 12, at his residence, 4, Eustace-street, aged 60, John Tarleton, whitesmith, of this town.

Burial at Anfield Cemetery, 14 October 1875, Uncosecrated Ground
John Tarleton
Age 60 years
Whitesmith
Abode 4 Eustace Street
Parish/District West Derby
Public Grave, section 4 grave 860
Image here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-B9CC-V

Order book
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T1-FCW6

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Re: Looking for Ann Tarleton
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 04 July 24 19:58 BST (UK) »
Probate Calendar, 1876
John TARLETON
Effects under £200.
5 May. Administration (with the Will) of the effects of John Tarleton formerly of 30
Little Woolton street but late of 4 Eustace street both in Liverpool in the County of
Lancaster White Cooper who died 12 October 1875 at Eustace street was granted
at Liverpool to Eleanor Tarleton of 6 Heyworth street Everton Liverpool Widow the
Relict the Universal Legatee.

You can get it digitally from the probate service for just £1.50.
Hopefully you will get a will. Even so, John may just leave everything to Eleanor. Worth a go though!

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Re: Looking for Ann Tarleton
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 04 July 24 20:15 BST (UK) »
Look at my reply #35 just the end bit. (after a bit of a red herring)

Thanks for that, for some reason I can't find it at all no matter which family member I search for with that family, maybe I have a glitch or something, I may see if restarting or something may help.

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Re: Looking for Ann Tarleton
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 04 July 24 20:16 BST (UK) »
Death
Dec 1875 West Derby 8b 364
Tarleton, John   
Age 60   

Liverpool Mercury, 16 October 1875
Deaths
TARLETON—Oct. 12, at his residence, 4, Eustace-street, aged 60, John Tarleton, whitesmith, of this town.

Burial at Anfield Cemetery, 14 October 1875, Uncosecrated Ground
John Tarleton
Age 60 years
Whitesmith
Abode 4 Eustace Street
Parish/District West Derby
Public Grave, section 4 grave 860
Image here
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJM-B9CC-V

Order book
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9T1-FCW6

This was to be my next question, why would it be unconsecrated ground?