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Re: Ancestry - Pro Tools/Enhanced Shared Matches
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 26 June 24 18:52 BST (UK) »
No segment or chromosome information in pro tools, the major difference introduced is that  you can now see how much dna two matches share with each other.
 

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Re: Ancestry - Pro Tools/Enhanced Shared Matches
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 26 June 24 19:22 BST (UK) »
Please can I just check something about Pro Tools. I assume this is not the same as a chromosome browser which GedMatch and My Heritage have - is that right?
I have matches on Ancestry where I know the common ancestor but don't know which segments of which chromosomes we share, including one fairly close match, and then I have equally close matches on My Heritage and GedMatch where I know the which segments we share but can't work out which family they belong to. Unless Ancestry are offering a Chromosome Browser which will enable me to match segments to family and then use DNA Painter to work out who the common ancestor might be, I don't think Pro Tools will help me. Or will they?
Hope that makes sense...
Hi,
   As mentioned by Glen in Tinsal , the pro tools doesn't include anything other than showing the amount of shared DNA for you matches.  So no chromosome browser, or any number of other DNA tools that you might find on the other sites (i have a massive internal list of improvements i would like Ancestry to make :-) ).   
   Where i have found the share cM amounts useful is when i have say 6-7 known matches who all match to another tester. I build a small tree using the WATO tool and enter the cM amounts. This has then given me a lot more accurate picture of where the unknown match fits in, so i can focus on that area of the tree to try and find them.

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Sellens - Sussex
Newham - Surrey
Wellington - Dagenham, Essex
Camp - South Essex
Wren - Essex
Livermore - Essex
Wane - Essex
Fisk - Essex / Suffolk
Bailey/Bayley - Sussex
Newton - Sussex
Funnell - Sussex
Streeter - Sussex
Coates - Sussex
Maisey - Surrey

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Re: Ancestry - Pro Tools/Enhanced Shared Matches
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 26 June 24 21:38 BST (UK) »
Thank you Glen and Richard.
I guess we just have to wait and hope Ancestry will introduce a Chromosome Browser eventually, although I take your point about knowing how much DNA shared matches have in common.
Kirkland in Derbyshire and Leeds; Francis, Elson, Coxon, Tempest, Wheeldon and Barker in Derbyshire; Cawood/Coward, Richmond, Brier/Brear, (H)Akins, Winterbottom, Nicholson, Mellor, Noble, Atkinson, Moor(e), Sloan(e), Tyson, Amos and Cooper  in Yorkshire; Goddard/Godarth in Devon, 17th Regiment and Yorkshire; Hodgkinson and Shrimpton in Bucks; Clewley in Oxfordshire.

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Re: Ancestry - Pro Tools/Enhanced Shared Matches
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 26 June 24 23:07 BST (UK) »
Ancestry have repeatedly cited privacy as the reason for not having a chromosome browser but now we can (for a fee), see that 'x' is a sibling/parent/cousin of 'y' and both are very much alive. The two situations seem at odds with each other.



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Re: Ancestry - Pro Tools/Enhanced Shared Matches
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 27 June 24 06:12 BST (UK) »
Ancestry have repeatedly cited privacy as the reason for not having a chromosome browser but now we can (for a fee), see that 'x' is a sibling/parent/cousin of 'y' and both are very much alive. The two situations seem at odds with each other.
Yeah that's just a stupid excuse.  It's relativity easy to work out a lot more personal/private info from the records on file, that's more dangerous than shared segment data.  Plus, why not give people the option to opt out of sharing it if they really want to ?
Sellens - Sussex
Newham - Surrey
Wellington - Dagenham, Essex
Camp - South Essex
Wren - Essex
Livermore - Essex
Wane - Essex
Fisk - Essex / Suffolk
Bailey/Bayley - Sussex
Newton - Sussex
Funnell - Sussex
Streeter - Sussex
Coates - Sussex
Maisey - Surrey

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Re: Ancestry - Pro Tools/Enhanced Shared Matches
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 27 June 24 17:52 BST (UK) »
While it would be useful to have access to the cMs shared between shared matches for some matches, since it should eliminate some individuals as the source of NPEs it doesn't warrant paying out for the tools at this point in time.

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Re: Ancestry - Pro Tools/Enhanced Shared Matches
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 27 June 24 18:02 BST (UK) »
While it would be useful to have access to the cMs shared between shared matches for some matches, since it should eliminate some individuals as the source of NPEs it doesn't warrant paying out for the tools at this point in time.
Totally agree, i will probably cancel the subscription quite quickly, after i have used it on the few cases that i really wanted it on. 
Sellens - Sussex
Newham - Surrey
Wellington - Dagenham, Essex
Camp - South Essex
Wren - Essex
Livermore - Essex
Wane - Essex
Fisk - Essex / Suffolk
Bailey/Bayley - Sussex
Newton - Sussex
Funnell - Sussex
Streeter - Sussex
Coates - Sussex
Maisey - Surrey

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Re: Ancestry - Pro Tools/Enhanced Shared Matches
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 29 June 24 00:39 BST (UK) »
If you are just working on your own tree then a month with pro tools every so often is probably sufficient though if more realised sharing results and answering messages is a free alternative we might not have been forced to pay for the information.

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Re: Ancestry - Pro Tools/Enhanced Shared Matches
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 29 June 24 06:52 BST (UK) »
If you are just working on your own tree then a month with pro tools every so often is probably sufficient though if more realised sharing results and answering messages is a free alternative we might not have been forced to pay for the information.
And people who reply to messages don;t always give you the shared cM information you had asked for